Wednesday, June 30, 2004

Joyce says...

Happy Birthday, Gordon!! man, aren't you old

Gary: please see my msn screen name

Gordon says...

Thanks Karen and Jason!

Karen says...

Happy Birthday Gordon!

Tuesday, June 29, 2004

Tim says...

Joanne and Viv: The merchandise is on it's way ;-)
Karen: Your such a nerd

Monday, June 28, 2004

Karen says...

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Tim says...

Can someone please explain to me what's so great about David and Goliath shirts? I mean I could see the comparison between David and Peter but that's about it 0.o

Joanne says...

Ok, enough of being nerdy, time to revert back to ditzy Joanne!

Peter: Apparently Off The Wall and Bluenotes sell David and Goliath tshirts!

Sunday, June 27, 2004

Tim says...

Joanne: Haha, I know the definition of a negative control. I just didn't know what your negative control for your experiment was.

Joyce says...

Wah, didn't come to the blog for two days and things are getting pretty nerdy eh~

some awsome quotes from profQUOTE section of mathNEWS:

"Who doesn't know how to take partial derivatives?" (Long pause, one hand up) "One brave soul to tell the truth... Don't ever run elections; you'll never get elected."
Metzger, STAT 231

"Bill Gates has kids? I thought there was a reason they called him Microsoft"
-CSC Underager

"If the person next to you has nodded off, wake them up. The best part of the proof is about to happen."
Koeller, MATH 137



Joanne says...

Tim: When you label something with an antibody, before you start any quantitative analysis on it, you need to know how much of that labelling is attributed to nonspecific binding. That's what a negative control is. A negative control is simply the same sample labelled with nonspecific antibody.

I discovered today that it takes about an hour and forty-five minutes to walk home from Main Street.

Saturday, June 26, 2004

Gary says...

YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO HOLLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^______^

*whew*, I thought Holland was gonna lose on penalties too......:P

But YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOOOOOOOOOOOOLLAND!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^

Friday, June 25, 2004

Tim says...

Joanne: Yeah if what the paper your referring to is correct, I believe that protein expression would be hindered. Just to further the point that it likely has to do with the cytoskeleton is the fact that the vesicle transport is the main contributor of cell expression and so any other method of transport would likely not affect your results that much. One other point is that there may be a defect in the particular protein itself and thus there is less specific binding? Perhaps it has nothing to do with the vesicle or transport itself. I guess the only way to know is to test this. I'm still kinda confused as to what your negative controls are. Do you have to propose something or do you have to actually propose your own experiment and test it out?

Joanne says...

Hmmm, Sauvignon Blanc, Pinot Gris, Chardonnay...is it just me, or do they all taste the same after a while? Perhaps I just lack taste buds, hehe. However, I found Jackson Triggs' Sparkling Riesling to be especially delightful! Oh, and R.H. Phillips? In my opinion, totally overrated.

I had to post this up before you guys start thinking I'm too nerdy with all my cell biology talk...

Joanne says...

Cindy: Hmm, membrane fluidity would probably affect distribution, but not level of expression, right?

Tim: OMG, it's like you read my mind! You see, with the cells in the brochoalveolar lavage fluid from the rabbits that were intubated with PM10 particles, even for my negative control, my non-control groups are showing two distinct populations - one of which shows a lot less specific binding. Now I'm thinking, the only way membrane proteins can bind less antibody nonspecifically is if there are simply less membrane proteins to begin with, right? So I come across this paper that found that phagocytosis of ultrafine ambient air particles result in cytoskeleton dysfunction! So I started wondering, if the cytoskeleton in the alveolar macrophages in the rabbits weren't working properly, then it's possible those vesicles aren't reaching the membrane surface, right?????

Tim says...

Viv: Hmmm, thanks, now I just have to go out to BUY a gamecube don't I?

Karen: I think Joanne was talking about 'expression of proteins on the cell surface', not extracellular factors

Joanne: Like I said, I believe the only method of transport to the cell surface is through vesicles. Maybe it has something to do with the cytoskeleton or signalling factors. Is it polarized?

vivienne says...

Tim: to play Four Swords, you need the Gameboy Advance system ONLY if you want to play with two or more players. If you're playing by yourself, your Gamecube controller is enough.

Gordon: Hehe...when I see you for your b-day thing..don't forget to return my CD. ;)

Karen says...

Joanne: external factors or external signalling? something to do with the media that they're in? Good luck!

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

just a guess: could the fluidity of the cellular membrane been affected resulting in the variability of your surface markers?

Tim says...

I am not aware of any other method of transporting membrane proteins to the surface aside from vesicles as they must be made and transported from the golgi. What do you mean that there is variability in your negative control? What is your negative control?

Joanne says...

CALLING ALL YOU CELL BIOLOGY MAJORS!

The expression of cell surface molecules is dependent on vesicle transport which in turn relies on the cytoskeleton, right? Is there another major contributor to the expression of proteins on cell surface that DOES NOT rely on vesicle transport?

The alveolar macrophages from the bronchoalveolar lavage fluid are just showing a really strange pattern of cell surface marker expression. Like, even the negative control is showing the same variability! Some I'm wondering if it's because cell surface protein expression is being inhibited somehow?

Thursday, June 24, 2004

Tim says...

Vivienne: Don't you need to have someone else with a Gameboy advance before you can play Four Swords? Since your playing though, maybe you don't...hmmm...interesting, maybe I will try

Karen: Has it ever occured to you to capitalize the first letter in every sentence? Heck, you didn't even capitalize your own name -_-' 'karen to' <--hence I thought the 'To' was a 'to' *sighs* Either you are just being really modest because you DID capitalize DAN CLOUTIER or you are just a really lazy typer. Most likely the latter :p

Gary says...

Choke it like Beckham......

vivienne says...

After staying up till three in the morning, I have succeeded in saving the second shrine maiden. *becoming four swords obsessed* Tim, have you started playing yet? Man, it's addictive...O.O

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

andy roddick encountered a taiwanese guy in the first round of winbledon

the taiwanese guy, Wang, 19 years of age, was so poor that after he bought tickets to london he had no money left to go to a hotel and was camping outside of the tennis centre
a local american guy took sympathy and shared his room with Wang...but of course, Wang had to sleep on the floor

conclusion: Taiwanese government lacks interest in funding for sports purposes. even for a rare talented player like Wang

Karen says...

in the news today...

1) Dan Cloutier (!!!) and brendan morrison are looking to sign MULTI-YEAR contracts with the Vancouver Canucks!!! hallelujah!!

2) there now exists a REAL superman baby in this world. they've found a 5 year old kid in berlin who has literally bulging muscles in his arms and legs. he can lift 3 kg weights with arms stretched out (they say many adults can not do this)!! for the geeky scientists in us, some extra info: they have found a mutation in something called myostatin that LIMITS muscle growth in normal ppl. so maybe it's not a bird or a plane anymore! *wahahahahaha*

this is karen to reporting from work for channel 6 because she finished lunch early and found the province actually sorta interesting to read for once. have a lovely afternoon ppl.

Tuesday, June 22, 2004

Joanne says...

I DON'T HAVE TO WORK NEXT FRIDAY! WOOHOO!

So I have three words to say: Grouse Grind, anyone? ;)

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

WHAT: Gordon's Birthday Celebration which includes Kayaking + Partying
WHEN: Sunday, July 4th. Kayaking 1400h-1600h. Party 1600h onward.
WHERE: Kayake @ Jericho Beach Sail Centre + Party @ Cindy's 5788 Churchill Street
WHO: You!!!
COST: NONE!!!!! For the food anyways. Bring an ice-cream topping, and the ice cream will be provided. Anything that needs to be fridged (ice cream, fruit, etc) can be brought to Cindy's the night before (or earlier). If you want to kayake, it is $44 dollars for a 2-men boat for two hours (aka $22 per person). Singles cost around $34 for 2 hours.
QUESTIONS? contact cindy via email cindywlee@telus.net

p.s. i'll phone everyone on Thursday to accomplish 2 things:
1. bring everyone up to date
2. conclude this whole fiasco about gift giving etc.

Gordon says...

Change of plans for a bit:

Kayaking: 2-4pm Jerhico

Dinner/Partyish thing: Cindy's place --> food is provided (probably pizza); I was thinking of having an ice cream thing like Steve and Star for dessert, meaning, I'll buy the ice cream, but you guys can bring a topping of your choice (I would buy ice cream cake, but it's too expensive..hehe). And again, post what you want to bring so that you guys don't all end up bringing the same thing.

vivienne says...

Wahaha...Cindy, add me to your list of winter-malfunctioning people...XD XD XD. I have all the symptoms listed, and more! *sigh* It's so sad....

vivienne says...

Joanne, maybe you should try eating ALL vegetables and no meat. ^^;; maybe you'll become un-anemic that way?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

Vivienne, true that. But I need my healthy balanced diet to remain pimple-free! All jokings aside, they are actually gradually starting to help me. I told them to go grocery shopping for the whole week's worth - afterall, they are two big guys who can carry heavy things. After 70 dollars, they bought enough food for about 2 days. *sigh*. At least I don't have to go grocery shopping for another couple of days. Chris says I'm being too harsh but I think if you don't know how much you eat up per meal per day when you are 19 years of age...you are in pretty big trouble. On the other hand, they are efficient (hopefully?) house-cleaners. They managed to finish vaccuming the house in 1.5 hours (in time to watch Wimbledon tennis), which would have taken me 3+ hours and lots of sweating. Plus with their amazing reflexes, they are good fly-squashers. So I'm not too badly off afterall :P.

Joanne, being anemic is not fun. You can't do anything properly because you get all tired out just from bussing. And (i think it's because of anemia) you have so much trouble concentrating. Winters are horrible because you are constantly cold and on the verge of wanting to pass out. Basically all your homeostatic balances are screwed up. Gordon and I are living examples. Get OFF of your diet! You look HOT and A-MAZING already!

Joanne says...

Waaaaah, get this:
I put myself on the Atkins diet (ie. totally opposite of vegetarianism) and I managed to become anemic o.O

vivienne says...

Cindy...seriously. Paper plates, microwavable dinners. :p that's all you need for your bros.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

alright everyone, so cindy is getting a little sloppy. last night she preferred cooking for her brothers over phoning her friends.

basically this is the gist of what is happening:

***the rest of the messege has been deleted. please refer to new and updated info above***

Monday, June 21, 2004

Joanne says...

I'm interested! Muahaha, the times I've forgone going out for bubble tea with you guys...this is where the money is going towards! I signed up for student rush like...2 weeks ago and I still haven't received my ID in my email! Darn incompetent Arts people...grrr... Anyhoo, you can just sign up right before you buy the ticket...they have no qualms about that. Perhaps I can convince my Post Doc to let me go early again...

Christopher says...

Evita!!

Who is still interested in Evita for this Thursday? Raise your hand now (post on the blog) or forever regret missing out on the social/life changing event of the season. If you are interested, please indicate if you signed up for www.studentrush.com.

Joanne says...

Hey Cindy! Umm, I've never taken FNH 350 or 355 myself, but according to my friend who graduated from Dietetics, FNH 350 would be really simple for biochem majors, but more difficult otherwise. I'm not too sure about testing methods. As for FNH 355, I heard from several sources that it's a damn easy course, though I never asked about that course's testing methods either.

vivienne says...

HAHAHHAAHAHA XD XD XD....I saved the first shrine maiden! HAHAHA....Four Swords is too much fun!!!!!!!!! Hahahah....Link ROCKS!!!!

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

(Joanne? maybe you can answer this)

Has anyone taken FNH 350 or 355?
What are the testing methods? Which are the good profs? Is it easy to get good marks in them?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

can someone please tell hiu wah that i'm extremely sorry that i cannot attend ultie practice today...
my back problem is flaring up again...>.< waaaaaah!

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

it's so hot...

therefore...
we should make good use of my pool and swim some time!

Joyce says...

YAAAAAAAWWWWHHH!! YES! YES! YES!

ENGLAND, BABY!!!!

ROONEY ROCKS!!!

Joanne says...

Peter: mmmm...nope, still no email...

Joanne says...

Sigh, we got our asses kicked HARD in Pool A >.<. Darn competitive teams are so fast. But I'm still happy with the fact that we were good enough to race with the hardcore teams.

What!!! They're PAID paramedics??? Damn. I should have taken advantage of it, hehe. I'm sure heat stroke would have been a valid reason, right?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

Joanne: ooh ooh ooh, how did you guys do in dragon boat? we (st john) weren't invited to cover the finale >.< i heard you guys got paid paramedics!

Peter says...

joh_is@hotmail.com?
email from either dearpeeterli@yahoo.com or ubcdke-treasurer@yahoo.com

Joanne says...

*checks email*
mmmm....no I don't, lol.

Peter says...

joanne: "you've got mail!"

everyone: just want to apologize for the unneccesary angry tone of my original post re: b-day presents. i hope it was not responsible for provoking such emotional opinions and subsequent posts.

Sunday, June 20, 2004

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

Dear Everybody (haha how personally addressed),

This is a notice that I will be phoning everyone regarding to Gordon's Funky Kayaking party. (Name is only temporary. Creative inputs very much appreciated). Please expect my call some time tomorrow evening (Monday June 21) if I don't see you first at the ultimate practice.

Take care,
Cindy

p.s. happy father's day, Xris.

Friday, June 18, 2004

vivienne says...

^^;; Um...this birthday thing has really blown up, and I'm not gonna offer any opinion on it 'cause it seems like it's not gonna do much for anyone anyway, but all I have to say is:

1) I just wanna say that I'm probably responsible for hitching up the prices of b-day gift of anyone whose birthday is after mine, sorry, sorry ^_^;; Even though it was a LOT more expensive than I thought it would be, it was really special, and getting a goat was something that I wouldn't have been afford on my own. This is something that I'll remember for the rest of my life as "remember that time when you guys bought me a goat--hopefully it's still alive somewhere in Africa?"

2) Joanne has been organizing the birthday events for as far back as I can remember, and I don't think we realize that it takes tremendous amount of effort to do ANYTHING organized with our group. I mean, for goodness sakes, she made the effort to cut out all the chicken fat from the chicken that she chopped up for my b-day hotpot dinner. I don't know anyone who's dedicated to THAT degree. :p I mean, chicken fat's not pretty....so...THANKS SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING, JOANNE. ^_^

Tim says...

Yeah umm, anyways, just to lighten the tone a bit, when the hell are we meeting at English Bay? I'm assuming ppl get off at different times so it's kinda difficult to get everyone there. Haha, I'm assuming some of you at work will read this before getting off work ;-) (ie. Karen) so should we just meet up at say 6 or 6:30? To the ppl that I'm driving, give me a call (That would be Jason, Karen, Joyce...(Christina?))

Karen says...

wholly smokes...okay some damage control, guys. this isn't a HUGE problem. just little modifications here and there to make this group a little happier, and financially-healthier! =P

Joanne: no way should you of all people feel blamed. seriously, i for one was sooo grateful alll the many, many times you just volunteered to be birthday gift organizer. truth be told, i'm sorta lazy when it comes to birthdays and your efforts did not go unnoticed. =)

Cindy: no way YOU should blame yourself either. no blame guys, no blame! and i agree with what you said, i for one think it's TOTALLY and COMPLETELY unfair that some ppl got jipped off. i don't wanna impose upon other ppl but for those who feel like it, i think it would be nice to 'make it up' to those ppl this year! (ie. (ordered by upcoming birthdays) cindy (yourself), ben, christina, gary, peter, tim, chris and pat.)

but to ppl who we don't see often (ie. ppl not on the ultimate team), you ARE missed! i'm consciously aware that i haven't seen chris, viv, likai, ben, becca for a long time now! but as always, attending social gatherings are individual choices, so no biggie guys. we would like to see you once every often but if not, we love you all the same! =P

i think we really need to go to the beach today and just let our minds simmer under the gorgeous hot sun. see you guys then!

---

"Relax, relax." (Christopher Ng -- Camping Trip 2003).

---

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

This is my 4th post this morning. Written when I was still enraged, the previous 3 posts have been erased. Let's give this another try.

First...Joanne: We are NOT attacking you. I am not attacking you. Please don't feel that way. In fact i feel bad that every time a birthday comes up, you are stuck with organizing a gift for them. why should you, when you haf ur own life to conduct and better things to do? Why should u, when we are all eager-pre-med-wanna-be's who should have leadership qualities but are too lazy to exercise them? If anyone was to be blamed for starting this bad habit, it must be me. Because afterall, i was the one to organize an expensive tennis racquet idea for Gordon's bday last year that cost me nearly $200, half of which i paid for myself because i did not get reimbursed. (no i can't chase them back now cuz i lost my list. that may explain why i used to keep telling everybody, "remember to get money back from people".) Enough said.

Karen et al. brought up good points that birthday gifts and celebrations are first, not mandatory, and second, can be individualized. and i agree with ben that birthdays are not that special, it may just serve as an excuse when we get together and enjoy each other's company.

but all of that may be (maybe i am still cynnical) just idealism to this existing group now. I'd just like to point out that if we have already started this tradition of expensive gift giving and then abruptly end it say, at jason's birthday, I'd personally feel bad for him. He's chipped in for our events faithfully but we aren't able to do the same for him. (tho jason is probably not the greatest example, because he will understand. But someone else might not.)

and Jason, social gatherings and birthday celebrations are by no means NOT mandatory. Especially in the summer. By not coming, u are not only missing out on the rare gatherings the group may have, since so many of us have work or other commitments (and u ask "what about ultimate?" well, many of us are not on the ultimate team) but also, you will NOT be missed. This group is just getting too large. li kai. ben. vivienne. chris (sorry to ya'll. i needed to demonstrate my point). Did we ever notice they were missing?

You gave an excellent report on the costs of socializing. Evita. VSO. Bard on the Beach. Bubble Tea. You used these as example of socializing events that are optional. But I beg to differ; I disagree with your comment that "if you can't go, you can't go." Back to my last paragraph: u don't know how left out we feel when we cannot go. i don't think i'm the first one to articulate this thought: "i need new friends, because i am drifting away".

You also made a point that it is our freedom to choose whether to chip in or not. True, if you decide beforehand and let the organizer know, so they can plan accordingly. But imagine if one person had backed out of chipping in for vivienne's gift, the price we would have had to pay would have gone up by $2. By exercising what you think are your rights, you are screwing everybody else. And you may not know how much of a pain it is until you are in joanne's shoes.

As a side point...personally I prefer the idea of getting one larger gift for birtday people instead of individually giving out gifts. Thank you Jason, for your jacket example. And also imagine Leo getting 20 bags of wine gummies. Maybe I am underestimating his love for candies, but I personally think the Canucks Jersey was a much better idea.

Maybe it's true you won't know what you've gotten the person until they open their gifts (as Ben pointed out), but if you were close enough to the person to feel YOU know what best to get them, by all means, be part of the organizing team.

Peter and I would just like to lower the cost. Make the gifts more personal. That's all.

Gordon says...

IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ NOW!!!

Now that I got your attention (I hope), okay, I think this whole b-day issue is getting a little too emotional for some people (without mentioning any specific names)...it's bringing back some BPP election shivers down my back and I am sure those of you involved in that election know what I am talking about. You know what? I don't even know why this is such a big deal. This is a very, very, very weird situation that I don't remember ever encountering when I was in elementary and high school. If you don't want to chip in... don't; if you don't want to give a present...don't (and that goes for all of my close friends too). So peter, cindy, as much as I appreciate you guys trying to organize something small, you don't have to and you are DEFINATLEY not obligated to do so. IN CONCLUSION... CALM DOWN!! You guys are making this a bigger issue than it really is. Some of you guys might not agree with me, but seriously, dudes, it's just a birthday present!

SO... I agree with tim. All I ask is to have a bunch of people together for my b-day (which will probably be the long weekend sometime)...whether it be the beach like last year, or kayaking... as long as you show up it's ALL GOOD! Kapeesh? I will even bring my own card for everyone to sign but some girl will have to lend their supply of rainbow colored pens?

So... now... I'm open to suggestions and opinions about the kayaking idea....

Thank you, enjoy this hot, hot weather! and RELAX (wow...even that word brings back memories...remember guys? ahhhhh...memories)

Tim says...

Hmmm, ok wow, so many opinions going around. Time to add my two cents.

I personally don't really mind chipping in for a gift although everyone seems to bring up some good points about how impersonal it is. I don't know about you guys but I kinda grew up not expecting to have birthdays or presents for that matter so really to me, the MOST IMPORTANT PART is just sharing that time with your friends and just hanging out. That's why I suggested paintballing for Peter and my birthday because I just want everyone to have fun. (As a side note, I realize paintballing can get pretty expensive so if there's not much interest, we can always do something else.) So I mean if that's what you guys want, I'm cool with that....AS LONG as we don't forget about the person completely haha.

Joanne: Don't worry, I don't believe it's an attack at you. I think we all know all the time and effort you've put in to everyone's birthday's thus far so don't feel like it's an attack on you. Not to mention that I would probably share some of the blame too (which reminds me, some people still owe me money, you know who you are ;-))

Thursday, June 17, 2004

Joanne says...

...I can't help but feel as if this is some kind of grandiose disguised attack on me...

Unknown says...

Pete, I agree with you man, somewhere along the line, we started losing sight of what's really important. It's just brainless chip-in-money-to-get-something-you-might-not-even-know-about-until-the-person-opens-it-and-then-go-home-wondering-what-better-things-you-coulda-done-with-the-money. I don't want to leech money from my parents and I make a meagre wage in co-op (most of which gets spent on food). We need to get rid of this bad habit!

Bdays nowadays are overrated anyways. Ever since I got legit ID for drinking seems like the point is gone. I'd rather celebrate the fact that at this time and age, I know a group of ppl I call friends who look out for eachother. Rather than getting an expensive gift or going to a pricy restaurant, I'd really rather just ppl get together at a beach or something and just hang out. Everyone's happy cuz about the only money you'll have to spend is on batteries or rolls of film for a camera. to me these memories are worth much more.

Karen says...

Joanne: my lovely bike is sitting uselessly in my basement right now. but the air in the tires are SLIGHTLY sub-optimal cuz it's been at least a coupla months =P. and also, i don't know how to adjust the seat of the bike. i don't know how the timing works but if you want, you can come pick it up tonight or tomorrow morning before i leave the house (ie 8:05)? call me if you need it. =P

Birthdays: i think the only thing to really change is just to let everybody know that it's NOT EXPECTED of them to get EVERYBODY a present. group presents are great if we know there's something expensive we really wanna get somebody, but really, to make it so orchestrated everytime defeats the purpose of birthday presents. small gifts depending on the friendship are great and forces us to be a bit more creative sometimes and we don't really do this in this group, but homemade or partially-made presents are also a lotta fun! so maybe just some variety and just to cater presents to each individual person? and a general rule to everybody to NOT FEEL OBLIGATED, NO HARD FEELINGS! =P plus, if you really don't like someone in this group, now you have a chance to show them! *ahem* just kidding........really! =)

Gordon: the 2nd, my first official "day-off"!! it's all good.

Gordon says...

RE: MY birthday!

OKAY, I totally agree with Peter and Cindy...and I was actually going to post something like this myself earlier but (believe it or not), I was too busy this morning and afternoon. Anyway, I think that the $5 thing is pointless too, because it may just be another present that you add to your "junk" pile. Maybe just a card where everyone signs it would be good enough. BUT of course... the people who are close to whoever is a different story (hehe...). So... how does that sound one card...everyone signs it...everyone pays....max 50cents?

NOW... back to what we should do on my b-day...I suggested kayaking to some of you. we can go on July 2nd (Friday) and that would be cheaper. It would be 2 for 1 so that would be $33/2 at Jerhico beach. OR we can go to Deep cove, but that is farther and more expensive. Anyway, just let me know what you all think of the proposed date and the idea. Afterwards... maybe we can have some kinda dinner thingy. I dunno.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

re: birthday gift

peter, i definitely agree (ya and i just talked to u on the phone less than 5 min ago). the expensive habits of ours have got to stop.

but, there are definitely some fore-seeable problems associated with the system that peter and i drafted earlier, which is that people would
1. feel compelled to chip in cuz some other person who doesn't seem too close to the birthday person is chipping in
2. feel compiled to buy a separate gift that might end up being more expensive or might be useless to the individual

another possible suggestion that chris and i talked about briefly (under 1 min) is to modify the existing system. therefore, we can cap the amount everyone contributes to a maximum of say, $5. That way all the gift would be under $100, which is reasonable for us students who are either leeching off their parents or working hard to pay rent and tuition.

this second idea may have the following pro:
- as a collective sum, the gift would make more difference to the individual than say, 10 assorted items that they don't know where to keep (my mom makes me give away gifts i receive. that is how bad the situation has gotten)

but also may have the following con:
- one huge gift not personal as peter pointed out, because normally people buy things that are meaningful and specific to their friendship
***altho i have to point out, the majority of the time the gifts are meaningless. i have personally received tons of picture frames (i don't have many pictures), desktop pen holders thingies (have u seen my desk? it doesn't have room for non-book things) and a whole bunch of useless decorative cups, ceramic dolls and stuff.
***that is why the persons closest to the individual can organize a gift idea for the individual because they know him/her the best

Peter says...

PLEASE READ PREVIOUS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

with respect to GORDON'S B-DAY THIS YEAR...
Gordon, i kno you probably feel shafted by this new arrangement. sorry, buddy, but keep in mind u did get a present from most of us last year. I, on the other hand, haven't even gotten a present for b-day last year (dun think tim got one either) and obviously neither me nor tim will be getting one this year. in fact several other people have been giving money into this "system" and have not been able to have this benefit when their own b-day comes along (chris, cindy, etc.).

so here's how i would like to do this. me and cindy are looking for a select group of people who feel like contributing to gordon's present in the 10-15 buck/person range. this is NOT mandatory, in fact, i PREFER that not everyone gets in this group. i suggest that some people also get some individual gifts on the side if they want to... like more personal things. u kno.. the way NORMAL groups do things.

anyway, if you would like to join with me and cindy, e-mail me at dearpeterli@yahoo.com
DO SO ASAP!!! offer ends in one WEEK!!!

Peter says...

friend's b-day gift: $20
friend's b-day dinner, cake and outing: $20
20 friends with 20 b-day's throughout the year: $800
membership in this clique of ours: priceless

ok guys, am i the only one who thinks that this whole b-day present system is
A - too friggin expensive
B - not personal
C - too friggin expensive

it started last year with many people contributing to one of gordon's b-day presents, and we're about to come full circle. since then, this gift system has siphoned who knows how much hard-earned cash from either our own pockets or those of our parents. this has to stop. and i'm not saying people don't deserve presents on their b-days... i just think, for the $20 i'm spending, i don't evn get to say "hey, member when i bought THAT for ur b-day?" instead i can only go "'member when one contributed to one twentieth of ur single gift of 2004?"

it's not personal and it doesn't disguish the best friends from the "ok-good-talk-once-in-a-while" friends. therefore, i propose that we draw the line here before we start off another round. several people i've talked to have completely agreed with this issue. please post on the blog and let me kno whut u guys think.

Wednesday, June 16, 2004

Joanne says...

This may sound like an odd request...but does anybody have a bike I can borrow for Friday morning?

Gordon says...

Just felt like sharing something interesting:

When I was going out for a run, I saw this big bug trapped in a spider's web and the spider was charging down to meet its prey. Obviously, the big bug was struggling to get free from the web while the spider was piercing itself into the bug. But the bug started to battle back. They seemed to be wacking each other back and forth as the spider got closer and closer. At that moment, I thought the spider was going to win for sure...well, that's what I remember learning in Grade 6. Anyway, I was thinking of intervening and freeing the big bug... but decided to just let nature take its course, so I just decided to go on my merry way for that jog and see the outcome when I get back. Little did I know, when I got back, I saw the big bug limping away from the web... with the spider missing.... WHERE DID THE SPIDER GO?? Not even a sign of its remains... I never knew bugs ate spiders???

Gordon says...

Joanne, just buggin ya =P

No, no, like I said before...MINORITY for Liberals. besides...not all is Harper's fault; layton and duceppe were the asses against martin yesterday

Peter says...

noooooo......... just whut i was afraid of... the liberals are not gonna make it. damn u harper, damn you and the rest of ur smooth-talking, tax-cutting, war-mongering, cold-blooded conservatives!!!

Joanne says...

Gordon: Well, I wasn't referring to you specifically, but it would have been too much typing for me to specify why each person isn't going. Hence the umbrella term, "back out" 8P.

Joyce: We can play that game AND THEN hang out at English Bay!

The Dragonboat Festival is this weekend! If any of you are interested in seeing Joanne grunt her way through 525m of False Creek water and don't want to pay $8 at the door for admission, why not purchase a two day pass for $10 from her? That way, you guys can share amongst yourself or whatever. Note: other dragonboat paddlers are selling them for $12, but I can get it for you for $2 cheaper ;). There's a beer garden, food (though not very good food...), live entertainment, lots of women around stretching... If not, come and keep Joanne company! Because she'll inevitably be very bored between races.

Please tell me before Friday!

I HATE STEPHEN HARPER AND I DON'T CARE HOW CHARMING THAT GUY IS! I think relationship advice also applies to politics: always be aware of the smooth talkers...

Tuesday, June 15, 2004

Joyce says...

haha
good suggestion about English Bay, Joanne.
OR
you guys can play a game called "picking up Joyce from work." It'll be really fun.
^++++++^

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

NOOOOO!!!!!
>.<
>.<
>.<
>.<
Waaaaaaaaah!!!

i meant dirty as in germ-spreading, unsanitary and old stinky books!

Karen says...

good god, i can't believe this. stephen harper's soft-spoken, and seemingly thoughtful and quiet charm is actually growing on me. but then again, i wonder how many image consultants he has on his behind-the-scenes team. i read a while back that canadian politics will usually turn out to be the most boring result possible. no wonder they say that canadian voters this election are more cynical than ever.

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The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism. (Norman Vincent Peale)

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Gordon says...

Joanne... I didn't back out... remember my email from london? I told you I wasn't sure yet but will get back to you when I get back to vancouver... and then said I couldn't come...

Either way...yeah, if you guys are doing something before dinner... count me in!

vivienne says...

Heheh....apparently Cindy has a secret "interest"...

(while discussing the merits of buying books from Chapters)

Cindy: I don't really buy books from Chapters; I'd rather borrow from the library the dirty books instead...

Chris, do you know about this? ;)

Joanne says...

Ah, good 8). Wow, you managed to figure out which one was my reservation? Cool. Actually, you didn't need to add 2, since Vivienne and Gordon backed out (grrrr...)

My Post Doc unwittingly forgot that we don't have enough of the thymidine analogue 5'-bromo-2'-deoxyuridine to go on with the experiment this Thursday and Friday, so I'll be getting off work at a regular time. How about bumming around on English Bay beach? That's nice and FREE, so perhaps cash-strapped Gordon, Peter, and Ben could join in for that as well...? 8)

Christopher says...

Happy Birthday Jason!

For Jason's bday, since our reservation is at 8:30, would anyone else like to meet up earlier to do something? I get off work from 5-6, and I'll be driving down there.

Joanne says...

*perplexed look*

So wait, you made a reservation yourself at Guu? That means we may have double-booked...

Karen says...

*Waaaahhhh* gordon beat me to it. i was just in the lab running my gel...thinking that i should run to our computer room and be first to say happy b-day on the blog! ANYWAY:

Happy Birthday Jason! =) Now you can go drinking in the States! See you Wednesday.

Gordon says...

HAPPY B-DAY JASON!!

Gordon says...

YEAH SWEDEN!!! All the way!

Monday, June 14, 2004

vivienne says...

Joanne: Turns out my bro has a school day off on Friday, and my mom wants me to do a "family thing" on Friday, so I can't come to the dinner. You can check me off the dinner list.

Jason: So sorry, I can't come to your birthday dinner. :p But have a REALLY great 21st birthday! Don't drink too much! LOL

Gordon: I'm looking up courses for next year, besides the science-for-kids course, are there any other courses you wanna take together? ANAT 391, right?

I finished off my bottle of Nutella today. >.<:;;;;;;; so sad...

Sunday, June 13, 2004

Joyce says...

:p Gary: i'm an ENGLAND fan!!!!! Germany is my 2nd choice.
yeah yeah.... it is mostly becuase David Beckham and Mike Owen... but, hey, England has good team plays and gentlemen-like style.....Waaaaah... I want David Seaman back~~

Sweden should totally kick Balgaria's ass...
but Portugal lost to Greece ..hmm.. maybe it'll be a trend.

haha. one good thing about soccer event is that we can all review our european geography~~

Gary says...

Boo you're a Germany fan? :(

Let's face it, you prolly only like Germany cuz Klose and Ballack are hot soccer players, haha :)

Holland all the way! Van Nistelrooy and Davids will rock yo ass.

Well, Denmark and Italy should still be a good match. Remember, Denmark knocked France out of the 2002 World Cup and they beat Italy 3-2 last time they met, so the Danes don't exactly suck :P

Karen says...

Joanne: thanks a bunches. i owe you one. =P

Joanne says...

Alright, three tickets at 6:30pm at the Orpheum box office? Got it. I'll try to get there by 6ish in case there's a lineup..but I doubt there will be. Will you girls be eating? Wouldn't want stomach growls to be ruining the concert halfway through ;). Be sure to have money to pay me back when you see me, because I need cash to get food...mmm....food...

OOooohhh! I LOVED that book! I dunno why, I always found it the perfect bedtime story - it really transports you to a wonderland.

Joanne says...

Alright, three tickets at 6:30pm at the Orpheum box office? Got it. I'll try to get there by 6ish in case there's a lineup..but I doubt there will be. Will you girls be eating? Wouldn't want stomach growls to be ruining the concert halfway through ;). Be sure to have money to pay me back when you see me, because I need cash to get food...mmm....food...

OOooohhh! I LOVED that book! I dunno why, I always found it the perfect bedtime story - it really transports you to a wonderland.

Joyce says...

GO KLOSE AND BALLACK!!
oh gary: denmar v.s. italy, sweden v.s. balgaria tomorrow... neh.. not too exciting.. i think

...however... ENGLAND RULES!!!!!!

JOANNE: the box office will open for rush ticket sale at 6:30pm. Please get 3 tickets (you, karen and ricky, hiu wah's friend) preferably seated together. I'll be getting 4 tickets myself for people who have the access pass during the day. Since Hiu Wah has a group of 4 going and us lesbo trio, we'll switch tickets so that you, me and karen will be sitting together.
Karen and I will be there after practice, 7:30 the latest.
Thanx for getting us the ticket!!

Gary says...

Bleh, England didn't deserve to lose......oh well, Holland plays Germany on Tuesday! ^^

Karen says...

Joanne: could i ask you a HUGE HUGE favor? is it possible for you to get me a VSO ticket as well? i cannot possibly smile sweetly enough for my postdoc to let me off early since early for him means i get off on time. lemme know if it'll be too much trouble. thanks in advance.

an ASIDE: does anybody else remember reading a really beautiful picture book as a kid called the POLAR EXPRESS?? it's about a train that takes little kids to the north pole to meet santa claus at christmas time. i think i read it in grade 1 and at the harry potter previews last night, tom hanks is directing the movie adaptation for release this x'mas. it was like one of my favorite books as a kid and the preview looked sooo good. just thought i'd share some trivial info on this gorgeously lazy sunday afternoon. =) btw, harry potter III was SO, SO good. harry potter fans who haven't should definitely check it out.

Joyce says...

bleh...stupid lucky France... errrr

Saturday, June 12, 2004

Unknown says...

Joanne,

I (Ben) can't come for the dinner thing cuz I'm pretty short on cash (plus gage ppl are gettin him something else already).

Becca can't go cuz she's got a Econ final the next day.

Joanne says...

Yay, glad to see you're coming, Joyce 8). I'll make reservations tonight.

Sure, I can camp outside the Orpheum after work. I'll just smile sweetly at my Post Doc and convince him to let me off early 8). But that'll mean my conspicuous absence from Ultimate Practice. Tell Hiu I'm sorry >.<.

Joyce says...

joanne: oh, pay cheque just kicked in. count me in for jason's b-day dinner at Guu (though i still have my "ideal" balance to keep, but.. bleh...trying to cut back shopping anyway... )

Joyce says...

VSO UPDATE: please read and reply if you are going.. sorry for the late notice...

I called today to ask if they still have seats for rush ticket for the Monday concert. The lady told me they still have "couple hundres" on the balcony but expecting more people to phone and order before the concert. Provided with this information, the following is the choice you have to make:
either
1)order the ticket in advance and pay $25.7 for student price and have gauranteed seats, in the back of the balcony.
OR
2)take the chance to buy rush ticket at the door and pay $15.0.
For people who have VSO's student access pass, it doesn't matter. you only have to pay $10 for the concert. (I think the box office opens 1 hour before the concert.)

please phone me or reply on the blog before 12:30 noon tomorrow. the costumer service will be open tomorrow 1pm to 5pm for ordering ticket, but i'm going to VUL's captain's hat tournament at 12:45 and probably won't have the chance to take my calls and call VSO box office.
I'll order adn pay the ticket for you guys first (I also have subscriber's discount, it may be cheaper than $25.7 !!). If you want to order your own ticket, please call 604-876-3434.

If you guys want to take a chance, we'll have to leave earlier on Monday after practice, or Joanne, whom i assumed would be working downtown, can do us the favor by camping outside the box office! ^^

Karen says...

*** HARRY POTTER UPDATE ***

Who: YOU
What: the MUCH ANTICIPATED (most by me) Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
When: Saturday, the 12th, 10:45 pm showing
Where: METROTOWN SILVER CITY
Why: sat. nights are now cheaper at metro...only 11 (compared to 15 before =[)
How: through the magic of disapparation *hahaha* or you know, the magic of the vancouver transit system.

See you there.

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Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he isn't. A sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is. (Horace Walpole)

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Friday, June 11, 2004

Tim says...

Hmm, it seems as though next friday is a busy night and everyone is already working so I won't be able to request the day off. Unfortunately, I'm also starting work late so I won't be able to make it to the after dinner party either :(

Peter says...

hi guys, just wanna let u kno i now have my own lame-ass blog... check it out if you're bored... or better yet, when ur procratinating!

peterli.blogspot.com

Joanne says...

Rides! To tell you the truth, I don't think we have enough drivers to organize much of a carpool. A majority of the people with cars, ie. Peter, Joyce, Li-Kai, and Tim can't make it to the party. Unless Chris, you're willing to drive Cindy plus campus people (Ben, Becca, and Gary) there? Let's hope Gordon will drive, so I guess the rest of you will have to fight over his three seats. However, it's not hard to get down to Guu via public transit, and I intend on giving detailed instructions to you guys in my email. Parking is gonna cost you guys, unless we make reservations for 8pm and after, but I'm afraid you guys will be too hungry...if so, stop by my work and I'll give you guys crackers or something 8).

vivienne says...

Karen: Why are you picking on me? LOL...if it's on Sat, I can't make it. I have my little do-dah with Gr. 6 kids, remember? The little perverted ones?

Joanne: Don't worry so much about planning everything...breathe in, breathe out. :) You have LOTs to plan for BPP next year...so please don't burn out! We need our prez! :)

Gordon: Can't WAIT till you're back! We'll have our candy eating contest when you get back..mwahahaaha....

Joyce: At least you have a job to work OT for...I'm just sitting at home staring at my MCAT books...it's really sad when I do extra readings for "fun".....

Christopher says...

Hrm Guu will be fine, there isn't that much seafood there. Tons of other goodies, altho we Must get the salmon sashimi in garlic. That was amazing. Anyhow, are we going to meet up ahead of time to arrange rides? Parking is a pain in the butt and if we could pool rides or something, it would save a lot of money and trouble.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

modified social event summary at a glance: for the month of june (last updated june 11th; apparently my dates are somehow outdated)

saturday, june 12th. DETAILS TBA. Harry Potter viewing. contact: Karen **note: gordon returns
monday, june 14th. 8pm. VSO final concert. contact: joyce
friday, june 18th. tba. Jason's bday dinner. contact: joanne
thursday, june 24th. tba. Evita viewing. contact: chris
wednesday, june 30th. tba. Gordon's bday thingie. contact: ?

apologies for the confusion. lol note to self: i wouldn't make a good secretary would i?

Joanne says...

Tim: Apparently they were really $2000 rabbits (that's just a lower end estimate, I heard they're more like $2500). The PI simply gave me the wrong number.

Jason: Just out of curiosity: Regarding Guu, I thought you didn't like seafood...?

There's quite a bit to do around Guu after dinner if you guys are up for some late night fun. I'll send out the options in the email, but I'm going to refrain from making any definite plans lest your moods change. But Karen has to work on Saturdays, so we can't stay out THAT late. I'm wondering who else needs to wake up early the next day as well?

Tim says...

How interesting, your $1000 rabbits ended up turning into $2000 rabbits? Wow, if only if were that easy...I could make a fortune!

Joanne says...

Joyce: Hmm, this sounds strangely like my situation. But in my case, I volunteered to stay overtime so I can see how they harvest a $2000 rabbit's visceral organs and hopefully get my hands on some pseudo-surgery 8P.

Thursday, June 10, 2004

Karen says...

Harry Potter Plans:

tentatively saturday night (late). i'm thinking the last showing at either oakridge, metro or downtown. i forgot which theatre but the latest one is at 10:45. tim's working that night (in tsawwassen -- yeah i spelt that right!!) and he's hoping to get off approx. 9 so hopefully it'll work out. as for choice of threatres...i have no preference. metro is only SLIGHTLY more expensive (i think 11) whereas the other two are 9. so open to suggestions. non-harry potter fans are more than welcome =P *ahem* joyce *cough*. i'm very much into harry potter conversionism. objections? speak now or forever hold your peace. =P --> vivienne you ARE COMING RIGHT?!?!

Joanne says...

Alright, the rate is still above Joyce's price range (sigh, but it's really good food, you sure you don't want to go?). I'll make a reservation for 12 people then. I know Chris works until 6 most days, some of the Co-op people face the possibility of overtime every once in a while...so I'm going to try for a reservation thats greater than or equal to 7pm, k?

Joyce says...

Today I think I experienced the lowest point a 20-year-old SINGLE girl can have:

during work...
boss: Joyce, do you have a date tonight?
Joyce: nope, what's up?
boss: Can you work overtime?
Joyce: (without thinking nor hesitation) SURE!!

Therefore, being dateless, I worked till 8:30pm today and managed to be excited after work since I got to see some cool stuff!!

....... i'm too single....

Joyce says...

Joanne: symphony will be on monday. I think it will be easier to get rush tickets on Monday. like what i posted b4, people who don't have a VSO student access pass will have to pay the regular student price if we order in advance OR going to the box office right before the concert to get the $15 rush ticket.
we'll leave for symphony after ultimate practice (or 7:10pm the latest), so please bring your change of clothing

Joanne says...

but then, at the rate people are opting out for financial reasons, I think a celebration at Guu would be totally doable. So Jason, what are your thoughts?

Hmm, I should really complete my thoughts before I start making a string of posts on this blog...

Joanne says...

Ah, Guu is good. I was considering that place. I'm just concerned that it's a very small restaurant and we are quite a big party...

Joanne says...

I want you guys to keep in mind that a hot pot or homemade dinner is simply not feasible unless people who are not working are willing to prepare the food. I'm looking at getting off work sometime after 7pm on Friday so be forewarned that I will not be able to lend a hand.

Joanne says...

Sigh, looks like the restaurant thing won't work out...people's wallets suddenly seem very empty...

Well, as I said in my previous email, any gripes about cost will automatically pass the responsibility of organizing this to someone else. Since I'm not your personal local financial institution, would somebody who knows what a reasonable price for an outing is please take this over?

Joanne says...

So when's the symphony thing? Saturday or Monday???

Peter says...

AHHHHHHHHH MY JAW HURTS LIKE A B*TCH!!!! holy F***!!!!!

joyce, i will have my revenge

Gary says...

Yeah, I'm wondering about the Harry Potter movie details......so when are we going? A weekday (ie. Monday night after Ultimate practice) perhaps?

Oh, and whose quote is that??? *points to the quote of the week* I sense that someone needs a little chloroforming from me. :Þ

Tim says...

Amongst the guys, nobody sucks as much as Peter. Although I may suck too...but not in that way, unlike Peter. (haha remember the stickers? Mean people suck, ...nice people swallow lol)

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

re: (joanne's symphony question)
joyce...????? when r u going?

p.s. the possible times are posted below:
Saturday & Monday, June 12 & 14, 8pm,, Orpheum Theatre
and Sunday, June 13, 2pm, Orpheum Theatre

Joanne says...

Hmmm, I thought the VSO thing was gonna be on the 14th at Gordon's request? Or is my memory dying on me already? o.O

Going to listen to the Concerto wouldn't be bad! I have a life's goal: to find a concerto that wouldn't make me go to sleep 8P. Perhaps this one could be the one!

Peter: Awww...you really can't make it? Boo-urns, you suck 8(. Anybody deciding to suck as much as Peter?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

regarding to joyce's symphony outing: (a continuation of today's conversation outside of bubble tea place)

i have a VSO student pass that i have never used (aka i don't know how it works). so joyce, do u know if i can lend the pass to someone for them to receive the student price of $10? do they check picture ID's and stuff? Karen looks like me, right? (chinese characteristic of small eyes, glasses, black hair...close enough) karen: if u can use it, u gotta pick up my ID and pass from me asap...

Wednesday, June 09, 2004

Peter says...

sorry joanne, i'm very low on money and on top of that, i owe tim like 15 bucks.....

so unless someone is willing to make a monetary donation to a very worthy cause, i won't be in for dinner.

vivienne says...

Joanne: All I can say is...you really ARE the BBP president for next year. O.o I mean, you even alphabetized (by last name) the guest list for Jason's dinner next week. LOL

Joanne says...

JOYCE: I WANT TO GO! I WANT TO GO! To the symphony thing that is. Count me in! How do I get tickets?

Ok everybody, I've picked a place for Jason's birthday. Looks the bellydancing isn't for free, boo-urns. I'm thinking of Mona's Lebanese Cuisine on the West End downtown. So what do you guys think? How many of you are up for it? So far, I'm working with the following list:

- Jason Cho
- Joanne Hsieh
- Gordon Jung
- Joyce Kao
- Benjamin Lai
- Vivienne Lam
- Cindy Lee
- Leo Leung
- Tim Leung
- Peter Li
- Becca MacClean-Angus (uhh..possibly the last name is not spelled correctly...)
- Christopher Ng
- Karen To
- Gary Wong

Am I missing anybody? Can anybody not make it on Friday the 18th? If not, then I'll go ahead and make a reservation for 14 next Friday. I'll send out an email in case you guys don't check the blog.

Christopher says...

Ah my mistake, it was Joanne who couldn't make it on the 17th. So can everyone make it on the 24th? If not we can consider alternatives, such as Mondays (I think there are showing on mondays now but I need to check that).

Joyce says...

totally bored.....

I just organized my CD's in such way:
1)ones i don't listen to anymore
2)taiwanese pop
3)vocals (including jazz, barenaked ladies, musical pieces)
4)movie sound tracks
5)samplers
6)taiwanese/chinese music
6)Joshua Bell (yes, he deserves his on category)
7)complilation CD's of various soloists.
8)the ones to be alphabetized (if there's more than one genere for that composer, it is subdivided into symphony, orchestral pieces, instrumental and chamber music, ordered from left to right or bottom to top depending on the placement of the CD.)

***gasp*** i'm a freak ....

Joyce says...

eh, chris, i'm free on 17th!!

PPL WHO WANTS TO GO TO SYMPHONY
tell me, call me or reply on the blog TODAY if you want to go
I think it's too late to get a student pass for VSO, so for ppl who don't have VSO student pass, you have to pay more than $10.
Since it is finale of the season, we're probablly order in advance. Therefore, a $15 rush ticket is not likely be one of the options. If we can't get a group rate, please expect the ticket to be about $20~25.
warning: before they play Beethoven's 9th symphony, they will debut a contemporary violin concerto. My experience with contemporary music is 1)bore to death 2)unpleasant to ears 3)all of above.

err... i ..need...coffee...er...

Christopher says...

About Evita again. Does anyone have any problems with making it to the Thursday June 24th showing? (Joyce can't make it on the 17th). If you are going, please make sure you sign up at www.studentrush.com. It takes a week to get your account activated. If someone who has signed up already can check from 3-5 pm on a weekday to see how many seats are available, we would be in your debt.

Joanne, check your icq.

Peter says...

Switchfoot - Dare You To Move

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

hey, for those AT&T wireless motorola users...

i just received a phone call from them and there's a trade for ur old motorola C333 for either a new motorola model C370, or a sony ericsson T226
the catch is u gotta sign the contract (the UBC plan) for an addition 24 months...

http://www.shoprogers.com/store/wireless/content/phones/Phone_Details.asp?name=Motorola%20C370&number=69&shopperID=TF3473B9TC7G8JQ7GL3EHSBRQ8A37FW3
http://www.shoprogers.com/store/wireless/content/phones/Phone_Details.asp?name=Sony%20Ericsson%20T226&number=68&shopperID=TF3473B9TC7G8JQ7GL3EHSBRQ8A37FW3

i ordered an ericsson cuz i've heard that motorola's generally suck...and u know, being a tech dummy, i only go for appearances. and they look about the same. tiny little phones for tiny little people's hands

Tuesday, June 08, 2004

Joanne says...

Hmm, I have a pair of size 10 women's dress shoes...would your brother be willing to settle for those? 8P

Hey, since there's the symphony thing and Jason's bday thing next week, would you guys be too against pushing the Evita thing down to the 24th so it doesn't seem like such a big hit financially? Plus I think I have to work until like 9pm on Thursday next week... Or if you guys want to keep it on the 17th, it's fine with me as well.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

weird favors needed: AGAIN

can i borrow a pair of men's black dress shoes, size 10 or above?
one of my brothers left his dress shoes in kingston and i don't believe in buying and returning
he needs it for volunteering on thursday...

thanks

Gordon says...

germany was where i did some wine testing that i didnt do in camp and the wine was disgusting, but we got to keep a shot glass. and venice...ahhh...venice, need i say more. it is the best place in europe so far, with the canals and all. you all should go before it sinks. it is sinking 1ft every 10 years. today, was my day free and i spent it climbing the swiss alps and man, it kicks the grouse grinds ass. anyway, i am glad u are feeling better cin, and i will see yall soon... next stop...PARIS.

Gordon says...

hey guys, i have not been on the net lately cause it has been like a party every night here. i swear, they drink here 24/7. i am in switzerland now. the land of chocolate, watches, CHEESE, and knives. it is sooooo nice here and everyone is friggen loaded. but no worries, i got all of you a lot of chocolate, so joanne, time to get FAT. yeah dudes, potcake was very good, hehe... puffing the marajuana was harder though, caughed the first few times, but then i got the hang of it. and yes pete, i am bad arent i... like someone during new years. next..trying E. anyway, i went to austria, but i did not find that chocolate store viv was talking about. but i did go parapenting and white water rafting there, which were both awesome.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

good morning and thank you all very much, guys and girls. i'm feeling better :)

jason: sorry to hear that u bought a useless bus pass. u should think about trying to sell it off to another person who might use it to minimize ur loss. u might have to lose a few bucks in order to get rid of it but it'll at least be better than losing the whole 60 bucks. i would buy it from u except i already got one myself...good luck, tho.

karen: thanks for ur spontaneously hilarious girlie energy. u're so cute! good luck on ur presentation

peter: thank u for ur research in the Behavioural Comparison of the Men and Women. and ur frat sweater and ski jacket :P sorry that i made u come all the way out TWICE...

Peter says...

hey cindy,
i know you really need a joke, but instead i decided to post a diagram from my current research on gender differences. of course, my findings are not very suprising, but they have confirmed what i've been suspecting all along.

Peter
Reasearcher at the Institute of the Mens's Alliance to Try to Understand Women
(Current Rate of Understanding Reached: 0.00024% and dropping)

Joyce says...

Hi guys,
It's now 9:12 a.m. Yes, i'm awake THIS early. In fact, the scary thing is that i woke up about 1.5 hr ago.
It's weird... i don't feel cranky at all but rather spirited....
hmm.... morning is indeed a nice time.

lalala...lalalala...

errr... didn't post this msg until now...

KAREN~~ haha.. good times when it is 3 a.m. and our data didn't work out and we decided to just b.s. our way through the error analysis. It turned out our data was fine and it was all about stupidity.
i'll miss you in practice~~~~

Karen says...

CINDY: it's okay to be depressed...but since you asked for jokes...
Q: How do you put an elephant in the refridgerator?
A: You open the door!
Q: How do you put a carton of milk in the refridgerator?
A: Can't just open the door! You have to take out the elephant silly! =P
(wahahahahaha...sorry off the top of my head, this is the one joke that came to mind. i know...lame joke...please don't throw things at me...hopefully you got a laugh outta that one...even if it was at me. =P)

JOYCE!! -- sorry my sister's ceremony is from 6:30 to 10:30 ish tonight...(hell of a long ceremony darnit!) which is why i can't make it to either the practice/movie. i've been on an msn/icq hiatus because of my stupid dumba** presentation! it's tomorrow morning and i can't work on it tonight because of the ceremony...AHHH...the stress rivals that of 3am lab report tuesday nights back in the days =P remember? ahhh...the memories...and totally...it's weird not having talked to you in a while...no worries...i'll be free as a bird come wednesday night =P

Jason: hahaha...i temporarily forgot about this blog for so long, i had to go into the archives!

wahaha...blogging at work...my supervisor won't be in til 11 which is why i'm here =P later gators.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

and i'm so depressed.

need some happy thoughts...jokes, anybody?

Monday, June 07, 2004

Joyce says...

KAREN~~~ Where have you been? I hardly see you on msn anymore. I logged in to the blog to post "karen where are you" and, unexpectedly, saw your post. It's so weird that now we don't see each other almost everyday eh... ohoh..come to the practice after the ceremony then, let's catch a movie after that!!

arrrr
i'm soooo bored

Tim says...

AWWW MAN, Calgary really should've won. The puck WENT OVER THE GOAL LINE in Game 6 and that would've guaranteed their win. WTF kinda conspiracy is this? This will go down in Stanley Cup lore as the cup that got away from Canada.....why the hell is it parading down in Florida anyways? It doesn't even belong there....THEY DON"T EVEN HAVE A FRIGGIN WINTER!!! ARGH....well, congrats to Andreychuck for waiting 22 years in order to hoist the cup. As for the rest of the team well....they all still look too young (ie. Lecavalier looks like a baby)

On the other hand, my bittersweet victory of winning the pool does come into play so I expect payment on top of the $$ that everyone still owes me *sly look*. Mwahaha, girls....bubbletea for you next time ;-)

Karen says...

Viv: do we have to?? i feel a little jipped off sending notes to someone who DID NOT REPLY MY LAST EMAIL!! hmm...fine...we should all 'write something' huh? i'll write him something!!! *muahahahaha* (Hi Patrick Tam! =P)

Joyce: reminder that i won't be at the practice tomorrow cuz of my sister's grad ceremony...otherwise i'd love to catch a flick with ya. but alas...=(

Peter: re: coop position. i think joanne's right. you may be a tad late. although i suggest emailing profs and other potential employers detailing your situation, i mean, free labour could be hard to turn down!

back to my stupid powerpoint presentation, the offspring of my feeble brain and a stressful couple of days. GRR. (although joyce, i have been getting some icq msgs...*wink*)

vivienne says...

I think I ran this idea by some of you guys already, (and Pat also, just to get his approval) I'm thinking of getting you guys to write something for Pat, and we'll package all the notes for him in one big bundle and send them off all at one time to his humble abode in Cowtown. I'm sure Pat would appreciate hearing from all of us as he is probably mobbed by a whole buncha upset Calgary Flames fans...anyway. I'm thinking we could make up the package by the end of this month? Knowing how unorganized this group tends to be...I think a month is enough time to put it together. Gimme some feedback! (and yes, Pat does read this blog...so any negative response to this will probably result in instant flaming from P.Tam!)

Joyce says...

***REMINDER***
ultimate practice tomorrow, tuesday, at 5pm
location: macinnes, as usual
if you don't come, i'll hunt you down and kick your ass...j/k
yeah... but try to make to the practice if you can.
Anyone up for a movie after the practice? it's TUESDAY; it's CHEAP~~~
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
errr... i've been sleepy all day.
does hibernation start as early as June for some animal?

Peter says...

BOO-URNS!!!


(like the new pic?)


TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

me and pat are workin on a little sumthin to transform this blog into a more organized and more exciting site. estimated time of completion? sumtime in 2008. i kno, i kno... it's faster than you guys expected. don't worry tho, me and pat don't mind busting our asses to make u guys happy. ;)


Yours Truly,

Peter Li
Boss of this site and everybody who posts on it... and the rest of the world.

Christopher says...

Booo Calgary lost. More importantly Booo Calgary isn't rioting! Was I the only sick twisted individual who wanted to see a riot in Cowtown? Lets hope that with a few more drinks and once the sun goes down, the mob mentality will take over. Congrats to Tim for winning the Pool.

vivienne says...

Unlucky, my foot! I always get picked on by the stupid postal service. Whenever I buy anything from the US, I'm always stuck with a duty tax that's almost more than what I ordered initially. Even specifying it as "gift" doesn't help...>.<;;;

Sunday, June 06, 2004

Tim says...

My experience with the postal service has been 'relatively' hassle free. On occasion I have been charged the duties/taxes/shipping and handling due to the sender not specifying the item as 'gift'. However, I do use ebay quite a bit and generally AS LONG as you specify it as gift, they will not charge you for duties. I have purchased items ranging from as low as $10-400 so I don't believe it's any different price wise. Maybe you were just unlucky?

Christopher says...

Yeah, isn't that a scam? The friendly Canadian Postal Service rips open your personally addressed packages and charges you duties, which are based upon the MSRP. I ended up paying more duties on my ebook reader than it cost me to buy it from ebay, because the MSRP was 200 dollars. And to add insult to injury, they charge you an additional shipping and handling fee for ripping open your private package and hastily taping it up again. Its good to know the Canadian Postal Service is helping maintain this amazing country by slapping down those who, heavens forbid, want to purchase products whose's prices aren't incredibly inflated by the sensibly huge tariffs imposed by our great country.

Joyce says...

joanne: oh.. on thing about shopping online for Stila that i later learned: TAXES!!! YES, if the custom opens the package, then can charge us taxes when we go the stuff. last time my uncle sent some shirts and caps to my dad as a gift, they tax my dad when he received the package.... oh yeah.. even if you say it's gift...
and...sorry... movie w/ any kind of war scenes makes me uncomfortable... ><


but.. hey
let's catch a movie Tuesday after ultimate practice!!!
The Day After Tomorrow???
anyone interested?

Tim says...

Joanne: Unless you plan on watching a late night showing I won't be able to make it because of work. (ie. after 10) If you do, then I may be interested

Joanne says...

Does anybody want to watch Troy with me sometime soon??? ie. Tomorrow night? 8P

Saturday, June 05, 2004

Joanne says...

JOYCE: THAT IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA! I've been itching for something from Stila for a while...need to update my eye makeup. It's so...Fall 2003, hehe. So I say we go shopping at Holt Renfrew sometime after I get off work, since I'm already downtown, and you have to work on Saturdays, so that's no good.

JASON: Come to think of it, I think you're right about the pot brownies. Plus brownies are not meant to be fluffy so it'll be easier to incorporate the pot leaves into it. Have any of you seen "Dick"? Kirsten Dunst's character made "magic brownies" for the security guards at the Whitehouse, hehe. Jason, is there anywhere in particular you would want to go out for dinner? Or any particular kind of cuisine?

PETER: Mmmmm, I think you're trying to look for work a little too late. People usually find paying jobs by January (except for Co-op students) and by March everybody else is stuck with a volunteering job. The trick is to start early. I think by now most profs have got more students than they can handle, so it'll be difficult. I personally don't know of any who are looking, so sorry 8*(.

Friday, June 04, 2004

Gordon says...

germany rocks!!!!! another drunken night... i think i am gonna have to join AA when i get back!!

Peter says...

thanks tim, i appreciate ur input

*mumbles something profane*

Tim says...

Peter...your useless, even my dog could do better than you....assuming I had a really fucked up dog that is interbred like crazy, is blind, and can't do anything but stare blankly at your general direction when you throw the ball :)

Peter says...

calling all CO-OP students:


can someone find some work for me?

Peter Li's Resume:
- desperate for any type of lab work (even getting paid nothing just to wash lab equipment)
- hard working
- detail-oriented


P.S. did i mention i'm desperate? i swear, i'll do anything.

thnx in advance. pls respond, even if it's to say: peter, ur useless... my dog can do a job better than u.

Joyce says...

WAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'm in SHOCK
My family friend in Taiwan is getting MARRIED!!!!!
He's less than two years older than me.
This is scary... scary... SCARY!!

Joanne: new cosmetic discovery: Stila is amazing!!! But Holt Renfrew sells it MUCH MORE expensive than on the Stila site even after factoring exchange rate and shipping fee. if you want, let's go try things out in Holt Renfrew and order it online together, it'll save shipping cost

Thursday, June 03, 2004

Karen says...

VIVIENNE: Got your msg from Gary earlier. I will give you/Tim a call tomorrow after work and depending on how late it is, I would love to join you guys for dinner. I don't know if you guys are doing anything after but I'm probably gonna go home early. Yeah so if I don't get off too late and I'm not tired as hell, I'll see you tomorrow! =P You're right, I haven't seen you in like ever!

ARGH...why am i not in europe?!?! although i must say, gordon, these daily 'live from europe' reports are quite very interesting!! haha. =P

Jason: Good call in the advance birthday warning. This group needs the 2 weeks to get things together. =P Friday's good for me.

Calling all MUGGLES -- (i.e. Harry Potter fans) (*lol* yes, i'm a HUGE fan):
the movie comes out tomorrow but i was thinking that next week would be better since we wouldn've have to fight through the lineups with the little kids. (plus, i have a huge presentation to make next week so i really can't this week =P) wanna wait and see it next weekend?? please?? =P

Joanne says...

Hmm, potcake shouldn't be too hard to make. Just take any cake recipe and replace some of the flour with ground up marijuana leaves. I'm sure you can use whole leaves as well, but it might interfere with the texture...

Jason: Ah, looks like someone is hinting at a present ;). And boy, you sure drink a lot. Is it a Korean thing or something???

Peter says...

omg gordon, u tried pot? that's so immoral... i'm ashamed of you... i dunno about you, but i was raised differently... man, ur like the first person i kno that's ever tried pot... dude, don't ruin ur future man... say no to drugs...


(above message is inside joke intended for gordon only)

vivienne says...

Hey Hey Gordon!

All I can say is, wish that I was there. ;p Potcake, eh? Hmm....maybe you could bring back some of those? Mwhahahaha....I wouldn't mind getting high off cake...sugar AND drug high. All you need is some alcohol and you're skyrocketing off to who knows where.

Tim, Cindy: Are we still meeting tomorrow for lunch? What time? Me and Tim said 12...but you know, Tim might not wake up on time. ;)

vivienne says...

Hey Hey Gordon!

All I can say is, wish that I was there. ;p Potcake, eh? Hmm....maybe you could bring back some of those? Mwhahahaha....I wouldn't mind getting high off cake...sugar AND drug high. All you need is some alcohol and you're skyrocketing off to who knows where.

Tim, Cindy: Are we still meeting tomorrow for lunch? What time? Me and Tim said 12...but you know, Tim might not wake up on time. ;)

Wednesday, June 02, 2004

Tim says...

Pot cake eh? Wow, seems like they're onto something that we aren't. Know how to make that Joanne? lol
I guess it wouldn't seem so bad because your eating it and not smoking it 0.o

Gordon says...

Yeah tim, I checked out that place...but it wasn't so good. haha..let's just say... they were uggggllly. anyway, amsterdam is like pott and sex city...every where you go..there's a sex shop. it's crazy. there are also like urine holes EVERYWEHRE...literally. I also went on this boat cruise...where there was free wine, beer and cheese..UNLIMITED. Yes JOANNE....UNLIMITED CHEESE man...everyone on my tour got wasted. it was awesome. and then our tour guide left us...and the rest of us got lost...it was friggen freaky, but it was all good. I had pot cake yesterday...but it didn't taste like anything special..just like sponge cake...that makes you high...hehe... but yeah, this place is so vintage! much more so than london, which I thought was bad enough. anyway, ttyl!

Tim says...

Hmmm, since your in Amsterdam, don't forget to visit the Red Light District :p

Gordon says...

hey guys, today I'm in amsterdam and the weather completey sucks... it's raining! anyway, it's really cool here because the people here bike everywhere and when they move, they don't bring the furniture through doors, but they actually carry it through windows...weird. anyway, tomorrow I'm going to the ann frank house before she was sent to the concentration camps. and I'll go to that chocolate place if I can viv and start shopping here too, since it is really cheap apparently. I gotta go soon, since time is running out. But are you girls sure you girls sure you need tips from the movie "Mean Girls"?? hehe... anyway, ttyl!!!!

Tuesday, June 01, 2004

vivienne says...

Hey guys!

Me and Cindy are planning to watch "Mean Girls" on Friday in the afternoon (before the BPP social exec dinner thing, from which I am excluded. Booo...), and if anyone is up for it, please RSVP.

We will probably be eating dinner together too...so you people who aren't in the dinner thing and who I haven't seen in a while (AKA Karen, Joyce, Gary) please come!

Gordon: enjoying Europe? haha...don't get ripped off by the traveller's cheques! Remember what I said about Vienna? And FIND THE CHOCOLATE STORE in downtown Salzburg!!!!

Joanne says...

Hey Gordon! Good to see you're having fun in Europe. So how are the British girls, eh? OMG! How's the shopping? I've always wanted to go into L.K. Bennett...we don't have one of those here, but their shoes are so cute!

Joyce: Hmmm, which line of lipstick from Chanel do you use? Because Christina uses that really shiney kinda sparkly one...I don't think I can pull that off... And where can you buy French bras??? That's actually been on my mind for a long while. My mom wants me to buy one of those Asian bras...but you know very well how their sizing does not work for us...

Peter: You can get a training bra anywhere! Like Sears...I think I bought my training bra there...

Gordon says...

Yeah!!! finally in europe. man...it has been the longest day ... literally. ever seen daylight for over 24hours straight? right now it's 1:45 in london and i'm here waiting to get checked in...so just decided to type up on what's up! welll, NOTHING... I was in a plane all day... but what i noticed about london, is how... vintage everything looks. i was kinda shocked. but everyone looks very posh...but maybe it's cause it's the business part of town. even the cop cars are bmw's and they are orange!! anyway, not much of an update on this trip yet except that i ate at this very small restaurant and went to the british museum which was absolutely amazing. they had everything from mummies, chinese, and everything else...AWESOME!!!. and if you didn't know already... these people drive on the LEFT side of the road!!! crazy!!!! later mates! and as for the symphony..GO ON THE 14th!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter says...

i need a training bra... anyone know where to get a good training bra?

Peter says...

i need a training bra... anyone know where to get a good training bra?