vivienne says...

Concerning the pro-life,/pro-choice argument...

...I'm sure you guys know what side I'm already on, but think about this: when you're dealing with abortion, you're talking about a life here. It's not like some product that you bought and didn't like so you're throwing it out, or some other thing as dispensable as that. What gives you the right to take another being's life? Because it's going to hinder your life? I can really think of no excuse or reason to doing something that's equal to murdering someone, especially when they don't even have the ability or the chance to fight back. Would the issue be the same if someone were to kill their newborn baby because they just didn't feel like having to deal with it or take care of it?

Of course, someone's going to bring up the whole rape issue. But that still doesn't justify killing a child.

Joyce says...

"too young and immature to make an informed medical decision"
yes, and she's mature enough to go through child birth, being a mother or even giving away her child.
stupid right-winged judge. few weeks ago i posted something from BBC about an U.S. campaign for abstinence to prevent STD in an african country. *insert eye rolling* way to go, george!

btw, i'm all for "pro-your-own-choice."
hmm, on the "pushing one's view on others." wouldn't being a pro-choice and allowing fetus being killed here and there a violation to pro-life people's conscience and moral? even with laws that maximize people's degree of freedom, wouldn't it be "pushing one's view on others" for people who want stricter rules?
anyway, bush sucks. coffee high rocks, WHEEEEE

aww. you are welcome, cindy. i'm glad you like it!!

Peter says...

my apologies, that last post was supposed to refer to a BBC News Article, hence my comment that it was "outrageous" i was pretty drunk when i posted it too.

here's what it should have said.

touchy issue, but this is outrageous - pro-choice or not.

sober paraphrase: [i know it's a touchy issue, but the fact that this is happening is outrageous, whether you're pro-choice or not]

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

p.s. joyce: thanks for your superb makeup on me! i was so reluctant to take it off last night LOL

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

i was looking forward to a good day of sleep today,...i had been so sleep deficient, waking up early everyday to do errands...

then my mom calls me at 8am and talked for an hour. way to ruin ur daughter's beauty sleep...bah. now that im awake before lunch, i actually gotta EAT lunch. but i dun wanna cook...

on the other hand, i can catch up on sleep during the lodge trip. mwahahahahaha...

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

looks like final exam postfest has died lol...

pro-choice

Stephen says...

Yikes. Way to get people riled up.

Choice. I'm actually pretty pissed at pro-lifers (anti-choicers), but I won't go into it here. I just don't think that anyone has a right to tell people what to do in their daily lives. If you're against abortion, great for you, don't push your views on others or show me fucked up pictures of aborted 8-month fetuses. I just find the pro-life argument to be very one-sided, while the pro-choice argument to be more milti-faceted and less fascist (now that's a word that I refrain from usisng very often... goddamn artsies, make me ashamed of my vocabulary).

Looking back on what I said at the beginning of the post, maybe I did go into it here...

Peter says...

touchy issue, but this is outrageous - pro-choice or not.

Stephen says...

Heh, I know it's annoying to point out the misspellings of others, but Metro using the words "desserted campus" makes me picture a UBC/Willy Wonka hybrid with buildings made of chocolate and chem classes in which you make ice cream.

Wouldn't that be a good life? I love square candies that turn round.

Peter says...

a wise man once said the only thing wrong with the world today is that everyone's a few drinks behind.

when alcohol's involved, interesting things happen. 10 years from now, we'll still be talking about the time we got liquored up and ran around a desserted campusat 2am, saying hello to random ppl, and joanne hooking up with "that gay finance VP from the AMS" if anything, this needs to happen more often. live while ur young.

good times, good times.

Joyce says...

HAHAHA, i can't believe the dolce boy actually emailed you!!!
hmm, i wonder how fun it will be to make mean comments at horrible designer items.

vivienne says...

*totally interested* really? There's a gay VP exec of the AMS? Like...GAY gay or "gay" gay?

Joanne says...

So I log into my Telus email account and lo and behold, I received an email from the gay VP Finance of the AMS asking about shopping at Holt Renfrew.

Lesson of the day: Exercise discretion when you reveal personal information about yourself to random people in a drunken state.....

Peter says...

i'm really feeling uneasy about this dictatorship that steve is running

Stephen says...

Jesus Joanne, way to take up the whole blog...

If I was admin I'd totally edit that and ban you unless you give me your P & C shares.

Oh wait...

watch your back

Joanne says...

I'm going to post my mass email on here as well:

Hello Fellow Lodgers

Now that exams should be done, take your time to read through this email. I know it's long...

So here is the scoop:
Ponderosa Point Resort, Kaleden
2 cabins side by side: One 3-bedroom and one 2-bedroom
Tuesday, May 3rd to Friday, May 6th
Accomodations work out to be $89.70/person for three nights.

Attendees (in my usual alphabetical order):
Joanne Hsieh
Gordon Jung
Joyce Kao
Vivienne Lam
Cindy Lee
Leo Leung
Tim Leung
Christopher Ng
Li-Kai Wang
Shiyan (sorry, I don't know how to spell >.<) Time:
We need to check in by 4pm. It takes about 4 hours to drive there, but in case we get sidetracked, I want to leave by 10am. So may I have you all meet at my house on Tuesday, May 3rd at 9am.

Drivers:
I need two cars that can fit 5 people each to avoid extra fuel cost and parking charges. Christopher and Tim have kindly indicated that they will be willing to drive if nobody else is available. Driving is NOT a fun job, and I think the most appropriate way to show our appreciation is if we exempt the drivers from the gas expense. That is, the 8 passengers will absorb the cost. I hope that's ok with you guys?With that proposal in mind, if someone with a more fuel efficient car than a Volvo can drive, speak now or forever hold your wallets (luckily for us, gas gets cheaper as we head east...).

Food:
Since our luggage will most likely be taking up room (Keep in mind it should be warm in the Okanagan), and it will be costly to transport food up there, we'll purchase groceries in the Okanagan. Penticton is very close by and after we check in, if one of the drivers plus any volunteers want to come grocery shopping with me, you guys are more than welcome! Incentive: those who shop get to decide what we'll be eating for the next three days. Oh yeah, we're in wine country and graduated, so alcohol is very welcome.

Tuesday:
Breakfast - at home
Lunch - on the road
Dinner - we can cook or go out to a restaurant in a nearby town

Wednesday and Thursday:
Breakfast - at the lodge
Lunch - at the lodge (or out in the town)
Dinner - at the lodge

Friday:
Breakfast - at the lodge
Lunch - on the road
Dinner - in the Lower Mainland

Directions:
I will have maps prepared day of.

Music:
We lose the radio partway through the car trip. To avoid uncomforable silences, we should have a source of music. As our blog has shown, our wildly different tastes are bound to illicit some complaints from each other. Here's the deal: Everyone burn ONE CD for the trip and we will take turns playing each CD. Since everybody has to accomodate everyone, we can't complain.

Gear:
I'll ask the dudes at Ponderosa if there are grills. If not, we can consider bringing a grill for barbequeing, lawn chairs, inflatable boats, frisbees, laptops (I'll be working...sadly...), NO GAME CUBE, fishing rods (there will be a lake), paddles, etc.

Wine festivals:
From the sounds of it, there IS lots to do at the lodge (canoeing, horsebackriding, etc. to name a couple), but I'd much rather tour the beautiful wineries half drunk and moo at some cows along the way to doing so. The Spring Wine Festival commences on Thursday, May 5th, but we are more than welcome to visit wineries, etc on Wednesday. At least one driver will be needed. Incentive: this driver gets to choose which wineries/events we attend. So far it seems like Burrowing Owls is in the order. Any other suggestions so I can map them out beforehand?

Ummm....that's all I need to give you guys a heads up on for now. Please inform me of any concerns.

Regards,
Joanne

Joyce says...

karen: hurrah to procratinationism, guardian angel of the all-nighters, and the love from the scaling/rescheduling god!!!

la la la la

[this is joyce the grouch in her post-exam madness]

Karen says...

every once in a while, you procrastinate to a level unprecedented by any university slacker standards, and you really are never, never gonna get what needs to be done done on time and you are so freakin' close to whamming your head against a brick wall for putting yourself into such a situation and you prepare to drench yourself in coffee for two all-nighters and two very long days ahead. i was in that state this morning.

and then, THEN, 1 out of those 10 times, magic happens and you wonder if a god does exist. (with all due respect of course, viv. =P) the presentation you never started or researched or even thought about is postponed and miraculously lifted off your undeserving lazy-ass and instead of pulling all nighters the next two nights, you will likely be on msn and sleeping full nights and maybe even watching the taped episode of without a trace from last week.

OH HAPPY DAY. =)

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

viv: it is completely paid for, and i told ashley i am going

gordon: no biggie, u'll only be missing out on crazy vomit-inducing rides

Peter says...

Reporter: Peter, it's 30 minutes before you begin your 8 hour blitz of writing your last two exams of the Winter 2004 season. Rarely do students blog at a time like this. How do you feel?

Peter: Well Bob, I'm nervous quite frankly. But I'm also very anxious to get this whole thing over with. It marks the end of what will likely be my best year here at UBC.

Reporter: That's great! Anything we can do to help you out there, Peter?

Peter: Yeah actually. I'd like to have my psych prof castrated.

Reporter: Done! Good luck with your exams.

Peter: *nods*

"If Life Were Like That, You Wouldn't Need .22 Calibre Semi-Automatic Firearms"

Joyce says...

would never NEVER touch an arts course ever EVER again! (i don't think i make sense)
stupid elective requirements.....

Gordon says...

Viv/Cin, I told Ashley I wasnt going to go to Playland because it's right smack in the middle of my three trips...I think ill need a breather.

Joanne: eh..forget about the sunglasses...just go with the whole deal...a bag =P

Joanne/Peter: Yeah, I feel sorry for Paul Martin for sure (I like him much more than Chrétien). however, I hate all politicians....so for elections, it's really all about voting for the lesser of the evils...

Peter says...

lab goggles!

yeah i feel sorry for Paul Martin too. but then i see gomery... and i'm like: fucking liberals. but then i see harper... and i'm like: fucking right-wing psychos. but then i see layton... and i'm like: fucking democratic pansies. but then i see bush... and i'm like HA at least i'm not american.

Joanne says...

I need some fashion advice:

Pimpin' aviator sunglasses or pimpin' lab goggles at the Grad Banquet?

And of course that begs the question, what kind of eye makeup to go along with it?

vivienne says...

Cin: The playland thing sounds great. I don't know if I'm busy that day or not though. Is it paid for? And are you and Gord going?

Joyce says...

lalalalalala lalalala lalala lalala
la la la la la la
lala
la

ah....

Joanne says...

Am I the only one here feeling sorry for Paul Martin?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

viv: check ur email! let's go to playland!

Gordon says...

wOOt! but more like YAR! Good luck on your last exams everyone!

Peter says...

YEAH! I'M DONE...

if by "done" you mean:
a) adj. the current state of my brain after 8 months of this bullshit they call "learning"
b) adj. a word usually followed by "for" to describe any chance i have of achieving decent marks in my upcoming exam

two exams monday... *sigh* uhhh... can i get a w00t?

Joyce says...

itchy itchy itchy
pollen, shrimp and kimchi

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

heh wont be done til tuesday 9:00pm

i think leo, tim, and viv are in the same boat...

Joyce says...

steve, you WISH.. haha

joyce the grouch will remain the most miserable and whiny until monday... AHHH

Stephen says...

WAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Finally finished!!!

It seems that I'm the last one..... Since nobody's posted anyhting for a whole day (gasp!), I suppose everyone else is finished and I'm the last person checking the blog.

Anyways... w00t!!!!!!!

Stephen says...

I know you guys didn't know me in high school, but this is fucking hilarious, and it reminds me of me!

Oh yeah, and I'm finished tomorrow! w00t!

Stephen says...

What does it mean by "adhesive"? Are the cups coated in glue? I don't think that gluing the bra to your breasts is the best idea... especially if you're planning on having it torn off.

We don't mind pushup bras, we know what they're for and appreciate that you wear them. Men like bras in general, we're not picky about styles. Granny-panties, on the other hand, will make anybody laugh.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

personally i think the "strange" bra is pretty sexy too. bras in generally are pretty sexy!
cuz think about it: by the time u see the bra, u're about to get lucky. so guys, dont be too greedy.

my vote: pushups all the way :D

Joyce says...

classic Bridget Jones' dilemma, the bra version

[introduction - what B.J. faced]
A geniunely tiny knicker is good to be shown during the post-date activity, i.e. sex. However, the chance of having a great date and getting to the post-date activity will be greatly increased by wearing a form-enhancing giant grannys pantie. Which one should be picked?

[the bra version]
Please refer to the Nu Bra below on Joanne's post.
Wouldn't guys get weird out/turned off when see such strange and unsexy bra? Tearing it off mayhaps can be painful for the girl.
Yes, we girls can go bra-less under a low-cut or low-back dress. However, push ups or sideway push ups create that coveted cleavage.

so, what are the guys' take on this one?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

i learn so much from joyce's corner!

i think steve and pat's corners need to step it up a notch!

Joanne says...

Some things to post up in case I lose the link:




The NuBra: adhesive inside cups and front closure for push and lift aka SIDEWAYS PUSHUP







Chantelle's strapless bra WITHOUT pushup.

Joanne says...

Well, not sure about actually graduated already... I applied for graduation, and they still let me register. And yup, they let me pay my deposit and everything.

Stephen says...

Joanne: that sounds like a great plan! Do they care if you've graduated already when registering?

Pat says...

-_- .. or do how most DECENT vancouverites do it.. save the ecosystem and PAY for a regular transit pass... :\

Gordon says...

sorry, did I miss something? Who has the good morals in this group??

Joanne says...

Gas is expensive, summer time is hot and greenhouse gases will only make it hotter - do you really want to drive this summer?

Well, I have no choice since I have no freaking car and so following the theme of Joanne-has-a-loose-moral-code, I'm going to share a little tidbit with y'all (feel free to disregard the following if you already know this trick):

How to get a U-Pass for the summer without actually taking a course:
1) In case you haven't noticed, you ARE eligible to register for a summer course even if you're graduating this spring.
2) Pay your $100 deposit fee
3) Randomly sign up for a course (UBC now thinks yours truly is taking SLAV 307D - Literature and Film in Eastern Europe)
4) Pay $381 for that random course
5) Go pick up your Summer U-Pass from the UBC Bookstore
6) Drop your course before the second day of classes
7) They write you a cheque to refund your money
8) You cash in your cheque at the bank
9) Do a dance

You have no reason to worry - the BC Translink system does not have the technology to deactivate your U-Pass once they issue it to you. That is assuming you have a spare $481 (holy crap, even I remember when courses were less than $300 each) you won't terribly miss for the next 2 weeks. Consider this: especially if you live outside Vancouver (Zone 1), an adult bus pass for one month alone will set you back $87, while a U-Pass for the ENTIRE summer is only $80. I should become an accountant...haha.

Now, I know there are a few individuals in this group with an unusally high set of [good] morals. You guys make me sick. JUST KIDDING. But I wil proceed to give the following argument anyway:
CO2 generated by oxidative combustion (another 4-syllable term) of hydrocarbons (another one!) is the major greenhouse gas on this beautiful planet earth now. If we continue to drive our gas-guzzling vehicles, it'll only be a matter of time when glaciers melt, ocean levels rise, and the old men on Wreck Beach will have to go somewhere else to satisfy their naked suntanning needs. And you don't want it to be in your backyard!
Like Paul Martin or not, his government (or was it Chretien's?) DID ratify the Kyoto Protocol and as our job as Canadian citizens, we should do our part. The Americans do their part by voting Dubya for a second term and refusing to relinquish their rifles, so why shouldn't we do ours?
Gas has been hovering about $1.053 for at least a week now. It'll only be a matter of time before some rednecked American in a $4000 suit will coerce the OPEC nations into increasing production to drive the price down. It's very possible that this is only part of a larger ploy to suck the OPEC nations dry of their valuable natural resource at the lowest cost possible, before Alberta and Alaska begin umphing their oil production and charging the rest of the world $24/litre because they will have a monopoly over this fossil fuel. The OPEC nations will of course bitch and complain, but the "democratic" nations will shut them up with some sorry excuse about how it's the price they have to pay for years of following an autocratic dictatorial government. As a last resort, they'll flash their nukes after they distract North Korea's leader with some surgically enhanced whore.

So you see, it's VERY right to cheat UBC if you consider the bigger picture. Actually, Eastern European literature is starting to sound quite interesting...

Christopher says...

RIP
Amadeo - 60 Tauren Shaman

Sad, 600+ hours of my life sold for a pitiful 133 USD.

Joanne says...

apathy n.

1. Joanne's current state.
2. The reason why Joanne will fail BIOC 403
3. The reason why Joanne hasn't gotten any sleep

Joyce says...

AHHHHHH

i see transition states ... and spots, and muffins... hmmm, muffins

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

steve: offence? none taken if u were referring to me. lol i know what cha mean, those think they are unique always fall into a certain stereotype and become mundane afterall. but hey, its not about what others think but how they feel.

and i demand my right to feel unique :D

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

i dream in black and white, silent movie style

i also watch it from a third person and i dig myself holes a lot of the times. but i also have special powers so i save myself from the crap most of the time.

now psychoanalyze me!

Joanne says...

AAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Less than 1.5 hours to go until 43 hours of hell.

I have three exams in 43 hours?!?!?! Holy crap...

That's right, you heard me, crap is holy. Nothing beats the almighty No.2....

Tim says...

Yay, done 4 of my exams and only 1 to go! I swear, once exam period is over...this blog is going in the tank again. Joanne, I'd sell your shares of P&C stocks while they're still high.

If you guys think your dreams are boring, I think that I don't really dream at all. Maybe I do, but I don't really remember anything that I dream of for the most part. However, most of my conversations are in english (Even with my parents for all I can remember). In the past, sometimes I dream that I can speak other languages like Japanese and Korean. I don't actually have to know the language...you just sound like it and the recipient seems to know what I'm saying and when they speak back to me I seem to know what they are saying. If only languages in real life could be like that.

Joyce says...

well, i dream in combinations and not necessarily the logical way. Whoever speaks what is completely random: my dad could speak perfect english and steve the jewish pitbull (puhahha) would speak perfect mandarin. weird thing though - taiwanese never appears in my dream, eventhough it is the 1st language i have ever spoken and was my primary language until kindergarten. hmm, judging from the last conversation with my grandparents, i think my taiwanese is as bad as joanne's cantonese.

oh, when you guys dream, what perspective do you dream in? are you still you or are you someone else interacting with yourself OR are you some 3rd person spectator observing yourself in your own dream. (whoa, big time run-on sentence)

i need coffee and sanity.

Stephen says...

Whoa, they elected a new pope. He's 78, guess we'll be going through this again in a few years, neh?

Stephen says...

FUCKING PHYSIOLOGY!!!!!

Stupid asshole profs!!! Sorry to break topic here, but this warrants ranting!

So my bastard physiology prof tells us in class, "Your final exam will be cumulative with emphasis on post midterm material (we had two midterms). You should also be able to integrate concepts from across the course." Sound fine, pretty normal pre-exam ramble, right?

Well get this: The entire final was on material from the first midterm! Really abstract concepts based on minute details from lectures in January! Everything from the last three weeks was tested in 10 marks worth of a 60 mark exam! The rest was hard-ass shit from January and February! Of course I looked over the old midterm material, but not to that degree! Nobody did!

Motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!

Now back to your regularly scheduled conversation...

Joanne says...

I dream in whatever language the people involved in my dream usually speak because my brain has been working all day (believe it or not) and it's sure not gonna bother making up new people when it's supposed to be resting (you guys would be surprised how often you show up in my dreams). So that generally means English since my Chinese is bad enough to dissuade any of you from speaking in another language to me on a regular basis. If my parents are involved, they would speak Cantonese. If my supervisor is involved, he will speak Japanese. I don't watch enough foregin TV/movies so if I happen to go out with Matt Damon or any other super hot superstar in my dreams, he's speaking English too....because chances are, he's white. It applies not only to heterosexual situations: my homosexual dreams are in English as well, mainly because I don't find Hongers attractive and I don't know enough Mandarin to dream of a hot girl speaking it.

So it sounds like I have pretty boring dreams since they seem to just mimic reality (none of the weird trippy reality distortions...even when I'm running a fever) but believe me, some of them can be pretty whack. And if you bothered read my post carefully, yes, I think I'm sexually confused as well.

Stephen says...

All right, I've had enough of this music thing, and in thie spirit of early morning procrastination this time (Physiology exam at 8:30), I'm changing topics.

Many people on this blog are bilingual; in fact, I think almost all of us are (aren't we a cultured bunch?). So here's my question: when you dream, what language do you dream in?

I know that my dreams are usually in English, but once or twice a month I will dream in Spanish or Japanese. Does anyone else find themselves in a foreign film when they fall asleep? While I understand that English is not everybody's primary language, I'm using the term "foreign film" to express speaking a secondary when I'm dreaming.

Come on, who's dreaming in Swahili?

Stephen says...

That's all well and good, but they still piss me off (they did when I was a teenager, and they do now). I guess what bothers me is that they're so caught up in trying to be "individuals" that they fail to see how they're all the same, and furthermore will adamantly defend this fallacy of individuality when this point is brought up to them. They just think that they're so unique and special, and that all of their ideas are brand new and their own.

I'm just not a big enough man to let them have that, I need to bring them down a peg. I hate it when fucking homie-wannabe kids think they're smarter than me. Anyways, that's all I'm going to say about it. Sorry if I've offended anybody or shot you down completely; I'm not trying to be an ass, it just sort of happens.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

while i agree that some lyrics are cheesy, or just trying too hard to be "deep"...some lyrics are still inspirational. but i will fully admit that as a more mature person, i listen to music for the beat now...in fact, foul language in my songs are a little more acceptable as long as the language is barely audible and the song has a danceable beat :D

BUT...to defend the teenagers out there who research the lyrics of their fav songs, paste them in their agenda, and carry them wherever they go (that was me)...they are just lost and need to know that maybe they are not alone.

so fellow adults...just because u are older now doesnt mean it gives u the right to criticize them what is stupid and what is hot

Gordon says...

I just wanted to add that, I don't know how much the lyrics mean to teenagers either. I think it's the beat, melody, etc that gets them to like the music that they do. Some people don't even know what the hell they are singing about...but just like how it sounds together. Rarely, do teens analyze what the lyrics mean (they just want to know the lyrics so they can sing along or what not). So really, they can be singing about sitting on the toilet for all they care.

And:

CONGRATULATIONS FUZZZZZ!!!!

Joanne says...

I never liked those teenaged angst songs. I've always wondered why people had so much to be angry about...which is why I didn't understand what's so great about Eminem until I was old enough to go clubbing. So really, I can't even say I'm through that phase since I never entered it! I've always suspected that I've bypassed a necessary stage in my psychological development (and I'm sure you guys have always suspected it too), and this conversation has allowed me to discover which stage it was!

So basically, without a normal outlet for them, all my teenage hormone-driven frustrations have manifested in my supposed plot to exploit the masses as I begin my 20s...

Man, psychoanalysis is cool...I wonder why Butcher et al always bash it so much.

CONGRATULATIONS JOYCE!!!!!

Stephen says...

That's exactly it. People have to realize that the band is out there to make money and get famous. Their lyrics don't mean anything, it's just what people want to hear. Take Sugar Ray for example, they tried to make it on their own as a punk band for 5 years before selling out and writing sappy shit that got them rich.

There's nothing wrong with knowing how to exploit the masses to make money, if that's what your into (get your pen out, Joanne). I just don't like how people buy into the lyrics, thinking that the "artist" really understands them or their plight.

Fucking depressed teenagers. Glad I'm done with that phase.

If you do buy into it, though, Broken Social Scene is for you.

Peter says...

i don't see anything wrong with today's music. the music ppl listen to says something about who the artist is and futhermore who the listener is. trends in music show where modern culture is going. love, loss, war, politics, material possessions, rampant sexual behavior. it's who we are.

i'm not saying we all have hoes in different area codes, or that we got lambourghini doors on the escalade ridin' 22s. but if that's what's making the top 40, there's gotta be a group of hormone-driven 16 year-old girls singing to it for a reason.

vivienne says...

Wow...I don't check the blog for a few days and all this conversation pops up. Tsk, tsk...don't you guys know you should be studying? :p

And I didn't realize that so many people listen to japanese. O.o;;; I thought I was the only one obsessed with that stuff....

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa still 4 exams to go!

Die, psychology textbook, die!

Stephen says...

One more thing, how could we have had a whole conversation about Ayumi Hamasaki, and nobody mentioned Fukai Mori?

Stephen says...

Joanne: That's right! "Short skirt/Long Jacket" was off of their fourth album, the same as the other two songs I listed.

Chris: I totally agree with you, I hate musicians that take themselves too seriously (like Matthew Good, fucking square-glasses artsie, he's such a pompous dick!), that's why I listen to bands like Cake. You know they're just out there to have fun with lyrics like "sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell".

Metro: I'm shocked and appalled at your anti-lingerie comments! After staunchly defending cork wedge heels, how could you possibly be against lingerie? Cindy's completely right (although I'm surprised to hear it from her), lingerie is about teasing! It gives you something to look forward to, and to remember!

w00t! No more Spanish! Not that I disliked it in the first place, but it's one less exam to write.

Joanne says...

Non-studying related update:

The Starbucks and Banana Republic on Robson and Thurlow are currently undergoing rennovations.

Just to make Joyce jealous:
I'm drinking a BIG cup of Torrefazione Italia dark roast right now 8D.

Joanne says...

Yar, I hate my bra.

Joyce says...

i think i'm more shocked at seeing "foreplay" comming out of cindy than peter not being pleased by lingerie.
hmm, wearing lingerie doesn't seem to be very comfortable, maybe the reason is because they are meant to be taken off. hmmmm

ah, another day went by with maximum effort at procrastination and minimum effort at studying.
hurrah to playing violin when internet is gone and playing with fingers when violin is locked away.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

peter: i'm surprised that u of all people ask. for teasing, for foreplay! of course.

Peter says...

in reference to joyce's side column: what's the point of lingerie if it's all gonna come off anyway? it's expensive and it gets in the way.

Joanne says...

Oh wait! I recognize Cake. They sang a song about girls with a long jacket and a short skirt before, right?

Joanne says...

Joyce: Of course I knew about her fashion diva-ness! She was onto the whole cameo brooch thing before western fine jewellers and high end designers discovered it. As for the plastic surgeon, I saw this picture where she had FOUR creases in her eyelids o.O.

Stephen: Dude, these groups and songs sound like some random thing you made up off the top of your head. I don't recognize a single one.

Chris: It's all a matter of wishful thinking. Same idea as why people (well, women at least) like to watch romantic comedies with fairy tale endings. You see, I certainly would like to get my hands on some bling bling, hoes, Bentleys, private jets, Vivienne Westwood, Hennessy, Dom Perrignon, Air Force Ones, or just plain getting freaky... As for lost girl/boy friends...that's also wishful thinking too! I would like to know what it's like to have loved and lost, rather than to have never loved at all... If anything, the beat is enough to rev you up for some fantastical enzymatic mechanisms! Go D102, H57, and S195! (100 points to whoever can guess what enzyme utilizes those catalytic residues!)

Christopher says...

It may just be me, but suddenly I find it very difficult to empathize with the current popular songs. I recently had the sudden realization that songs about Teen-Aged Angst annoy the heck out of me. Sadly enough I used to love those. I guess it comes with the territory as we moved beyond this stage in our lives.

How many of us deal with bling bling, hoes (sp?), getting/losing female/male friends, gansta life or whatever drivel gains the spotlight, on a regular basis? We should move onto songs that we can really relate too! Songs about RRSPs, raising children, dealing with bosses (the bad kind not the good kind). I swear someone needs to start a workplace angst genre and they would be rich.

Stephen says...

Yeah, I had a feeling.

Chris: I recognize those names, I'm just surprised to find anyone under 50 who listens to them. Gordon Lightfoot and Anne Murray? Seriously?

Joyce says...

bahahaha, nothing, Steve, nothing, nada, neh.

oh, after googling "Ayumi Hamasaki," i finally found out what her name is in chinese. JOANNE and PETER, do u guys know that she's the fashion diva in japan? and her plastic surgeon's job on her eye folds is the holy grail for a lot of young jap girl searching for bigger eyes. how do i know? bahaha, b/c i read taiwanese intertainment news everyday and she appears frequently on the jap/korean section.

[something completely random]
ugh... insufferable! *in the tone of lizzy bennet in BBC's rendition of pride and prejudice*

Stephen says...

I'll be surprised if anyone recognizes these:

IOU - Metric
Respectactle for the Respectable - Super Furry Animals
The List - Metric
The Undefeated - Super Furry Animals
Anthems For A 17 Year Old Girl - Broken Social Scene
The Little Acorn - The Fruit Bats
Combat Baby - Metric
Popular Mechanics for Lovers - Beulah
Sexy Results - Death From Above 1979
Symphony in C - Cake
Gold Days - Sparklehorse
Opera Singer - Cake

That's all I remember right now (Blogging from the library).

Christopher says...

'Tis a sad day when people no longer know the names of Ann Murray, Buddy Holly and Gordon Lightfoot.

Joanne says...

Peter:
Ayumi rocks! I'm not too sure if she's had anything new out lately...she probably does - that girl spits out singles like rabbits with babies. All my Ayu songs have been accumulated from three years of procrastination on Kazaa, WinMX, and Bear Share in university. If you can't find any, feel free to message me and I'll gladly forward them to you. The spyware got to me so now I almost exclusively download through torrents, but I find Bear Share to still be a great resource when my weakness calls... Now, I just hit up one of those illegit music shops in Chinatown, buy the latest CD for $4 and "Copy from CD" on Windows Media player, haha.

Ah, the Game. There was a song of his I was meaning to download but keep on forgetting to do so - thanks for reminding me! Consequently, "Hate it or Love it" is currently set to repeat 8P.


Chris:
Sadly, the only song I recognize on your list is Selena, Ayumi Hamasaki, Vitamin C, and that Disney song (which still rocks by the way!). But being swallowed whole in Toronto - more room for anonymous hookups ;).

Christopher says...

Bored again, and most certainly will not study at 9 am in the morn'.

Playlist:
(I haven't updated this since Camping '04, sadly enough I've burnt out 3 cd burners and I only have 3 music cds to my name.)

Could I Have This Dance - Anne Murray
I'll be waiting - D-Cru
Melodies of Life - FFIX Soundtrack
Graduation - Vitamin C
You'll be in my Heart - V6
Vampire Princess Miyu OP
Cloud Age Symphony - Last Exile Soundtrack OP
Over The Sky - Last Exile Soundtrack ED
A Whole New World - Aladdin Soundtrack
After All - Delerium
Yakusoku wa Iranai - Escaflowne Soundtrack OP
Voices (acapella) - Yoko Kanno - Macross Plus Soundtrack
Funny Girl - Payton Rule and Jefreejon
Dreamn of You - Selena
Sugar Baby Love - Sugar the Little Snow Fairy OP
Toms Diner (acapella) - Suzanne Vega
Song of Love - Rebecca St. James (Its amazing how many religious artists are good)
Duty - Ayumi Hamasaki

Its funny looking back at the songs I used to listen too. I can't stand half of them now, but a lot of them will remain my favorites. Graduation by Vitamin C is a fantastic song that most certainly fits our situation. I'm sure the music literate people here hate it because of the bastardization of some famous piece of classical music (that I dont know the name of, so it obviously it isnt that famous! or I could simply be musically challenged, which undoubtedly I am. )

If any of you see Payton Rule and Jefreejon playing Anywhere please let me know. They have dropped off the face of the earth. For those who don't know them, they got their start at Sonar in Vancouver, won a few awards for independant music in Vancouver. Then they got too big, fled to the evil city that is Toronto and promptly became obscure. Sad.

Lesson learned? Don't go to Toronto as it will swallow you whole! (Unless they grant me an offer, then I'll sell my soul and go willingly) Seriously though, Panorama, a highrise lounge on the fifty-first floor, was Sweet. If I ever get rich enough to put down 10 bucks for a glass of wine on a regular basis I'd love to be there on a nightly basis.

Peter says...

speaking of songs, it's been awhile since i've posted a random mp3.

who remembers THIS SONG?!?! (nobody i hope)

(btw, it's You Can't Hurry Love by The Supremes (i.e. Diana Ross))

Joyce says...

i have no playlist (who needs a playlist if there are 200+ CDs present). instead, i'll post the two CD's that are currently in my optical drives.

CD 1 - Barber/Walton Violin Concerto played by Joshua Bell (who else)
CD 2 - Brahms piano quintet 0p. 34 played by Pollini and Quartetto Italiano

hmm, maybe i can post what's on my mp3 player, but i doubt if anyone's going to read it.

Peter says...

Joanne: I LOVE ayumi... but all i have is her best hits album, A-Best. where do you get her songs?

My playlist depends on my mood:

in the genre of rock:
Beautiful - Thornley
High and Dry - Radiohead
Wish You Were Here - Radiohead
Fall to Pieces - Velvet Revolver
No One Else - Weezer
Name - Goo Goo Dolls
Sixteen Days (The Entire Album) - Three Doors Down

in the genre of rap/hiphop music (tim, this is for your black half):
Hotline - Ciara
Oh - Ciara Feat. Ludacris
Mockingbird - Eminem
Get in My Car - 50 Cent
How We Do - The Game Feat. 50 Cent
Man I Used to Be - K-Os
Demon Days (The Entire Album) - Gorillaz - dunno if you wanna call this rap

Joanne says...

The first 15 songs of my playlist (note: songs weren't added in any particular order)

Forgiveness - Ayumi Hamasaki
This I Promise You - N'Sync
In Da Club - 50 Cent
Disco Inferno - 50 Cent
Sancta Maria - Andrea Bocelli
Canto Della Terra - Andrea Bocelli
Evolution - Ayumi Hamasaki
Ever Free - Ayumi Hamasaki
Crazy in Love - Byonce feat. Jay-Z
The Rockafeller Shank - Fatboy Slim
Rich Girl - Gwen Stefani feat. Eve
1,2 Step - Ciara feat. Missy Elliot
Kissing You - Desree
4 Seasons of Loneliness - Boyz II Men
Someday, Someway, Somehow - Brian McKnight

Gordon says...

Here's my playlist..in random order:

Boulevard of Broken Dreams - Green Day
I dont'wan to be - Gavin DeGraw
It's Like that - mariah carey
We belong together- mariah carey
My Boo - Usher
If I ain't got you- Alicia Keys/Usher
When it comes - Tyler Hilton
Someday, someway, somehow- Brian McKnight
Since you've been gone - kelly clarkson
Behind these Hazel Eyes - kelly clarkson
When you Believe - Whitney Housten/Mariah Carey
Shut up- Simple Plan
No Diggity - Blackstreet
Crossroads - Bone Thugs n'Harmony
This Love - Maroon 5

Joyce says...

hmmm, fashion debates and songs. this is just like last year.
remember the opera glove controversy?

Joanne says...

Let's play a game. Well..not really a game...just another excuse to procrastinate.

List the first 15 songs on your playlist. Feel free to post up any changes as your playlist evolves this exam season.

Joanne says...

Fashion tastes are very subjective, but sure, I'll take Stephen on! So how should we settle the score, eh? Any ideas, anyone?

Hmmmm, time for some pointless posting. Dragonboat practice was fun today. Some highlights:

a) Captain was paddling with this shirt off again.

b) When you read your fortune cookie fortunes, try tacking on "in bed" at the end. You'd be surprised.
ex. My fortune today became "Move slowly but surely and you will have success in bed."

c) Our team manager is planning Paddle Royale III and this time, and she's including a swimsuit fashion show. If you guys have tips on self-control, please share! I don't want to find myself agreeing to something I will end up regretting when my captain smiles at me again.

d) Something to make the single guys on this blog jealous: For my birthday, my team mate said that he can get the bikini models at his import car show to grind me. Oh yeah....

Gordon says...

FINISHED UNDERGRAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim says...

Steve: The reason why it's 'Pus'Hsieh is because when you try pronouncing it together you get
'push-eh' like a pussy cat :)

Here kitty kitty kitty...

Stephen says...

The more I think about it, the more bloody hilarious I find it! I believe a handle change is in order.

Joanne: You probably shouldn't feel obliged to do the same, I don't how you feel about the name "Pus" following you around forever.

Peter: Your name is now "Metro".

Stephen says...

Yeah Tim, how did you come up with that nickname for Joanne anyway? "The Pus", gross!

I'm a fan of "Jewish Pitbull", however.

Oh, and Joanne, Peter has admitted defeat (see previous posts), but if you're up for it... BRING IT ON!!!

Joanne says...

I'm sorry, but unless the guy (hetero or homosexual) is Alexander McQueen, Zac Posen, Tom Ford, Karl Lagerfield, Jean Paul Gaultier, John Galliano, Ralph Lauren, Alber Elbaz or Will Truman from that ever-so-popular NBC show (hmm..this is a lot of men come to think of it), I WILL NOT ADMIT DEFEAT.

I'm jumping in the ring!!!

Peter says...

for the record, I didn't edit joanne's name. that was tim's choice to put her "nickname" on there in the first place.

Tim says...

[EDITED POST: On behalf of Peter]

In the left corner we have the undefeated champion, Steve the Jewish Pitbull. This man has everything going for him with a good med interview and a wife lined up this summer. He has fashion expertise taught by his future wife and has been known to take down the previous champ, Joanne the 'Pus'Hsieh, on several occasions.

In the right corner we have a new and upcoming challenger, Peter the 'METROSEXUAL' Li. Do not be fooled by his reputation, for this man has dated one of the best coaches on the planet! This man has been called 'gay' many times in his career, and with good reason. He knows female fashion inside and out and knows more about mascara than all the girls in our group. Even Joanne the 'Pus'Hsieh has admitted to his supremacy in the ring. PETER the 'METROSEXUAL' LI...with his superficialness, he instinctly knows what is HOT and what is NOT!

So now without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the BATTLE OF 2005....

FIGHT!

Peter says...

Steve: comparing high-heeled shoes to flip flops is impossible. they're two functionally different things. it's no longer just about the look. it's about posture, walk, everything. and those burberrys provide all that in a style that is westcoast chic.

but i'm not going to continue to disagree with a man who's engaged and has as much training and background as you do hehehe. and plus, two guys discussing women's shoes is just too much for me. no really, i have limits..... what?

Joanne says...

Bah, even Hermes has distastefully large wedge heels:


But of course, if I had Gemma Ward's legs, ANYTHING on my feet would look good.

Stephen says...

Thanks Peter. On what authority do you challenge me as the coolest person on this blog? Or on shoes for that matter? If living with Star has taught me anything, it's been an intense lesson in fashion.

You can be laid back without being skanky. Take Havianas for example, they're the most comfortable flip flops in the world, and they look really cool! Nobody needs to resort to a cork wedge heel. That has Belinda Stronach written all over it.

Joyce says...

Sorry Pete, I have to back Steve on this shoe issue. If you guys read my post more carefully, my response to the Buberry espadrille is "why, Buberry, WHY." So far, only Jimmy Choo does a good job on the recent trend of wedges i.e. avoiding that skanky look (see left, click to enlarge). And for cork wedge, it only goes well with bottled blonde hair, vinyl mini skirt and cheap make ups.

hmmm... but peter did bring my attention to west coast living...
now what is the classic footware for west coast girls with taste?

long live procrastination!!!
GOOD LUCK ON YOUR MCAT, KAREN!!!!

Peter says...

oh... and btw... i can give u two a ride on the 28th... so HA now you can't get back at me for calling you prairie boy cuz i'm doing you a favor muahaha sucker.

Peter says...

Steve: i'm afraid i have to challenge your authority as the coolest person on this blog. those shoes are damned cute. admit it. it's all about the "laid back yet hot" look. this is the west coast man. manolo's belong in new york and other cold/jaded places. go back to winnipeg, prairie boy.

Tim says...

Hmmm, this is pretty sad. I'm checking stocks and procrastinating away on the computer when I have an exam at 3:30pm. I can't study anymore -_-'

Karen says...

karen's must download or must redownload song of the day:

john mayer - comfortable.

depending on your mood, this could be one of the most depressing songs ever but for that same reason amongst others, it's what i would say is a perfect song if there could be one. the guitar, the voice...i just had to share. happy studying!

Stephen says...

Joyce: Wedge heels? Are you kidding? Only 14 year-olds wear those. Yuck! I prefer the Manolo's. And it's a cork wedge! Hellooooooooo trailer park!

Joyce says...

Seeing the recent trends of wedges and espadrille, i asked, "why, Burberry, WHY?"

With all these times spent to procrastinate by browsing shoes on neimanmarcus.com, I've only seen very few pairs of wedges with taste let alone espadilles. (We'll see how things are at Saks Fifth Avenue.)

Joanne: Check This Out haha, too cute to be true eh~

Gordon says...

Joanne...I'm going to sue u for yar and that song! and my cuz is a lawyer so Mwhahahah...FREE!

Stephen says...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! Eat shit physiology notes!!!

I mean, hooray, no more studying tonight.

Joanne says...

I am slowly going crazy...1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 SWITCH
Crazy going slowly am I...6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 SWITCH

Gordon: yes, I know I stole your song. SO SUE ME. I actually have a lawyer! MUAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sanity level officially = 0%

Stephen says...

Peter: Belinda Stronach is a monster! She's an evil, right-wing, frenchless bitch with no fashion sense (bright blue eyeshadow with a hot pink vinyl suit? At an election? What a piece of trash!)! In short, no, I don't find her the least bit attractive. Not even for her age. I'm too repulsed by her to even consider that thing in a sexual setting.

Joanne: I have a moral code. It's an evil moral code (not in the Belinda Stronach kind of way), but a code nonetheless.

Joanne says...

With the posting rate these days, my P&C stocks must be through the roof!

As for having the loosest moral code, at least I have a moral code! Woohoo! One small victory for Joanne!

Joanne says...

Since Tim is lazy and doesn't want to bother writing up his own future, I shall do it for him (with his semi-approval and editing...although I actually hit "Publish Post" before he could see this, muahahahaha).

10 years from now, Tim will have 5 children (because in case you haven't seen him clubbing, he'll have problems keeping his pants on around his wife....plus condoms are only 97% effective and he would never agree to female oral contraceptives since it causes water retention and his incessant poking will discourage his wife from continuing on with the doctor's prescription). Even though five kids is a lot, each of them will already have a $10,000 RESP since he's been contributing the moment the first one popped his head out of his wife's dilated vagina. Plus, he scored a deal with Stephen who's been blackmailing Joanne with his knowledge of her secret affair with her incredily cute and ripped Graduate student (wait, can grad students be ripped?).

Since Tim doesn't mind driving, he will be living in Port Coquitlam, where he can afford a big ass house with a nice ass view and a huge ass yard for this 5 offsprings and dog "Chau Dow Foo" (stinky tofu) to run around in. The house will be equipped with one rocking home entertainment system, a pool table, and a state of the art poker table. Every Saturday, he'll gather his homies around (Gordon will fly in on his private jet) when his then vintage poker set will be put to use. Of course his wife will be by his side whining about how he's squandering his money away while she has to bust her ass picking up the kids from minor league hockey. Her whining gets worse when he offers to teach his eldest son some strategies in Texas Hold 'Em. He'll be climbing the ladder at the Clinical Genetics department in one of the Lower Mainland hospitals, and at that point it seems probable he'll be securing the position of Manager within the next 3 years.

Gordon says...

Future...

Well, I do plan to get married around 27 and start gettin busy so that by the time I'm 32, I'll have three children: a daughter (who will be the female Einstein, the Prom Queen, an olympyic gold medalist in the 100m, as well as a graduate from Juliard since she'll be some muscial prodigy in violin, piano, and some type of wind instrument - traits probably passed down from her mother), twin sons (both tall (again, from their mom), one being the jock and the next Michael Jordan on the courts, the other using his left brain through life). Although some, low-key pediatrician in BC Chíldren's hospital (hmm...or maybe The Children's hospital of Sask. if there's such thing), I will be loaded such that after doing those rounds, meetings, prescription writings, governmental paperwork, etc during the weekdays, on the weekends, I'll jump onto my jet (yes, I'll know how to fly one!!) with my "ever-so-lucky" wife and we'll head to the Caribbean (or some other exotic place down in central america) on one weekend, and sail to wherever on my yacht the next. As for what I drive...I won't be (since I hate driving). If I do need to get anywhere beyond biking/walking/jogging distance, I'll definitely have myself a driver (he'll probably drive some Mercedes sudan of the S class (yes, a sudan, so it'll be easier for myself to get into the backseat), and I will probably buy some multi-million Victorian house that's close enough to the hospital so I can wake up five minutes before my shift(s) and walk over to the hospital.

Peter says...

Tim: again, shut up. refer to previous post.

Joyce: Belinda Stronach wore those. and it made her look hot (in a milf kinda way of course). am i the only one that thinks she's reasonably good-looking for her age?

Random thought: trying to study while in front of the computer is like trying to diet by ordering salad at a Krispy Kreme store.

ok that one made more sense before i typed it out.

Joyce says...

$2800 USD. Click to enlarge.
While real fur coats feel like death, I wonder what it feels like to wear this pump made of Gold American alligator.

Tim says...

Don't mess with me Pat or I'll get my black cousins to kick the $817 out of you!

Peace!

Pat says...

err stephen.. i think you meant half-whack.. common typo.. no sweat.

Stephen says...

Addendum to previous post: Peter, you shouldn't pick on Tim, he has every right to use "homie-speak". After all, he is half black.

Pat says...

sidenote: friendly reminder that the ultimate team owes pat $$

..okay.. now continue with.. whatever the hey is going on with this blog.. :\

Stephen says...

Multiple things:

Firstly, I agree with Peter, I am the coolest one here.

Secondly, while they no longer make new versions of the Z8, it is still available and made in BMW factories by large Bavarians. In addition, I will never be found driving an SUV or a station wagon unless it is a loaner vehicle while my spiffy ride is in the shop. I think that station wagons and minivans are an acceptance of parenthood that completely detaches a person from the fact that they were once a child. Hummers, however, are even more hideous, and are only driven by people with small penises (as are Corvettes). Plus, all of these vehicles cost a bloody FORTUNE to fill with gas, and even if I'm rich, I'm not going to be too pleased with driving a car that costs $300 to fill every week (especially the way gas prices are going).

Thirdly, Joanne: I will probably be blackmailing you because I feel that you have the loosest moral code, and will be the most likely to be involved in some kind of scandal. I also feel that you would report such a scandal on this blog, and that I would be the only one willing to take advantage of that fact. Yes, I realize that this blog is available for viewing by any member of the general public; but honestly, who's actually going to find and read it?

I think I'm done for now. Oh yeah... w00t!

Joyce says...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4433069.stm
geez, this is rediculous. stupid bush. why don't we tell all kids "don't have sex. you will get preganant, and die."
http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/04/12/Arts/ipod050412.html
hmmm, what is bush's PR ppl trying to do here?

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/04/12/bicycle-judgment050412.html
maybe this is a good way to fund your post-undergraduate education

Joanne says...

Uhhh...I beg to differ. Since when were white people cool? (Speaking of Stephen, why do I get blackmailed?)

aZn PoWa (or however those crazy kids spell it these days).

For shizzo.

Peter says...

Tim: stop trying to be cool. ur not. nor is anyone on this blog except steve cuz he's white.
stop making the situation more sad by being a poser.

that is all.

Joanne says...

I know they don't make the Z3 anymore. Yah, Stephen is going need a station wagon or a van OR A HUMMER (since you're loaded).

I know a guy in my lab who has a Ph.D because he couldn't afford med school, and now he's moving back to New Zealand with his wife and kids to go for his M.D. You guys should talk.

A witness to our lives, eh? I thought having someone's credit card when mine was full and the tax credits would have been good enough reason...and if he can program the VCR, all the better. But as for the witness to our lives thing, the sucky part for women is that we uusually outlive our husbands, so they're not even there to weep as we pass away connected to a myriad tubes and monitors, or visit our graves with flowers. We have to give birth to children AND be lonely for the last 20 years of our lives? I'm telling ya, we get the short end of the deal.

Joyce says...

do they still make Z8?
steve, i think you will end up having an X5 or a Volvo XC90 (given that you are loaded). I think the latter is more possible as you'll have to strap one of your 4 kids on the roof if you have an X5.

A lot of us aspire to become trained professionals. I think.... finishing the professional education is just a start. The first 10 years in the job is just learning how to do a good job at your job. At the same time one would have to keep up with the field and learn new things all the time.

I'm a cynnic and don't think juggling family and career would work, especially for woman. Think about it, do you hear "juggling family and career" from guys? Even we girls expect ourselves to take a bigger part in handling family.
(hmm... no wonder i'll still be single or going through a divorce 10 yrs from now.)

here's something from Shall We Dance (could be a good movie if J. Lo can show more than 1 facial expression): why do we get married? because we need a witness to our lives. the wedding vow is essentially saying your life will not go unnoticed, because i will be your witness.

If this is true and if our lives can be witnessed in other ways, why do we need marriage (and love) after all? why would we want our lives to be noticed anyway? it won't matter after we breathe our last breath; even to ourselves because we're not alive anymore. would beethoven still be inspiring in 200 yrs?

(AHH... was waken 40 min ealier than expected by neurotic brother who wanted to leave for the airport at 9:00am to pick up mom, whose plane was scheduled to land at 9:30.)

i'm still 40% away from finishing downloading PBS's 5-episode documentaries on DNA (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/dna/). Hurrah to procrastination.

Stephen says...

Married (obviously), 2-4 kids (depends on genders of children, I want one girl and one boy, but I'll probably give up after four kids regardless of the outcome), and living in New Zealand. I'll work part time as a family practitioner, and our gigantic house will be a bed and breakfast. Oh yeah, and I'll be fucking loaded (haven't quite worked out where the money's going to come from, maybe I'll blackmail a politician, or Joanne) and have either a Z8, or more realistically an S2000 (there's no way Star would let me drop $200,000 on a car)!

I originally planned to have two kids, separate them at birth, and train each of them in separate martial arts. Then I was going to bring them together at 21 for an epic duel. I have been informed that this is mean, however, and that my wife doesn't feel like putting out two kids so that they can kill each other.
I still think it's a cool idea though...

Tim says...

Peter: Amen brotha!

Joyce says...

no kids. single (or going through a divorce). fabulous. working 6 days a week while taking violin and/or piano lessons. no time to spend income. committmentphobic.

Peter says...

drunk and high on the corner of hastings and main

Joanne says...

Where I see myself in 10 years:

So I'm fabulously decked out in a beautiful Burberry coat, Hermes scarf, and Salvatore Ferragamo loafers (eh, I'm allowed to fantasize here, right?) and the proud mother of the brattiest and most voilent toddler in the sandbox. As I watch the fruit of my loins intently (note: watching, not listening, as years of listening to my music so loudly will inevitably tire out my tensor tympani), my emerald-cut-1.2-carat-diamond-set-in-white-gold-ring (yes, I have thought of the type of engagement ring I want - please direct necessary information to suitable future candidates)-clad left hand is holding my 7th cup of coffee of the day, for as a stupid attempt to balance both family and work, I have decided to take on the midnight shifts or go to work at 5am so I can spend the day with my child. (My kid is in the sandbox and not at some advanced keener preschool because I don't believe in these things and after many hours of arguing with my husband and threatening to kick his ass, I won! Muahaha.) As I encourage my child to build the biggest sand castle to trump the cocky-ass kid laughing at him/her, my mind can't help but brainstorm ideas on how to turn my students onto Clinical Biochemistry, thus securing my track to tenureship. And then I suddenly think of the very cute graduate student I have recently taken under my wing, but quickly shake off the cougar-ish idea as I remember of my tall engineer husband with rocking arms, who doesn't know I used his credit card to purchase a pair of Manolo Blahniks online yesterday...

After my child fails to break any Guinness record with his/her sand castle but kicks down the cocky-ass kid's anthill of sand (eh, senseless violence - good enough for socialization by my book), I gulp down the rest of my coffee (you certainly cannot let good coffee go to waste!), strap my child into the baby seat of my bicycle (I suck at driving, and the rising gas prices sure aren't encouraging me to hone my skills and get rid of this Class 7), and pedal back to my apartment (because years of schooling would surely have left me debt-ridden and the crazy real estate market would render me unable to pay for an actual house in a decent neighbourhood). The reason why I can be dressed so fabulously is because despite how I have no RRSPs, I have made a very wise investment in Johnson & Johnson.

Joyce says...

when yourn jar is empty and you almost scratched the last bit out..... fill it 3/4 with warm milk, close it with the lid and shake for 1 minute... open....and you are laughing!

now i know what to do with my next jar of Nutella.

AHHH, why aren't most of the guys like the guys of this group - cook, clean up and keep things clean!!!

Gordon says...

Congrats steve!

Hey guys, in the midst of exams and in the end of most of our undergrad careers, where do you really see yourself in 10 years? And not just some made up answer for your med interviewers, or whoever, but really...

Stephen says...

w00t!!!
Med school interview over!!!!
I think it went pretty well, I made the guy laugh that was trying really hard to keep a straight face.

Anyways, Jehova's Witnesses believe that you get into heaven based on how many people you can convert in your lifetime, and that heaven contains only a limited amount of space. I don't know why they don't accept blood, neither do I know why they never smile (maybe it's the ever present stress of competition, and I thought med schools were bad). Essentially, I agree with Joanne in that children are a product of their parent's in terms of religion, and have no concept of any of that until they are older (I had a bar mitzvah at 12 and renounced Judaism a year later, now I'm just a cultural Jew and in it for the jokes). So I say save the girl now, and if she decides that it ins't what she wanted when she's older, she can commit suicide then if she still feels that strongly about it ($50 says she reneg's). I don't think she's able to make that decision for herself, and I think the parents would really see it differently if it was them and not their daughter (isn't she just competing with them for conversions anyways?). So that's where I stand there.

Apart from that, I don't know if Star and I will be coming on any wine tasting tours. We don't drink, and it all tastes like ill-kept grape juice to me anyways. We'll see about camping though. I'll talk to her when I get home.

Joanne says...

I've looked through the list of events available on May 5th and 6th and it appears that most of the events are simply visiting the wineries for tastings - stuff they would normally do during the spring/summer season...the Spring Festival is probably a way to inaugurate the wineries' tour season...some Thompson-Okanagan Tourism Industry ploy if you ask me. Since there are so many of them, I didn't bother checking the pricing for each. There are a few wine and cheese tastings, but those fall on May 7th and 8th. There are certain special events where wineries present and educate about their wines with a five course meal at the estate's fine restaurant - but those cost an arm and a leg ($50 - $100).

If it were a grown woman rather than a young girl, I would say strapping her down and forcing the needle into her vein would have been the wrong thing to do. However, with children, you have to question whether or not they really do believe in Jehovah (...or whatever Jehovah's witnesses believe in...judging from their name, do they just SEE Jehovah? Ah, I'm gonna get a verbal beating from Viv on all this religious blasphemy, haha.) Anyhow, most young children are in a religion simply because that's the home environment they grew up in. They're still young and impressionable and haven't been exposed to many different views yet, so they're still not in a position to make an educated decision on their faith. It's why the age of consent is 14 (or is it 16?), because young children cannot even fathom what sex is - it's part of the reason why sexual molestation of young individuals can leave them so confused. Likewise, young children cannot truly grasp the meaning/implications of Jesus, the Devil, Buddha, Mohammed, or nihilism (unless my level of comprehesion was seriously lagging behind my peers in grade school).

What I'm saying is, I don't think it's fair that a child should have to perish because she was born into a family of certain religious convictions. By saving her life, the provincial health care was giving her the opportunity to mature and rightfully choose her faith. If she so decides to continue witnessing Jehovah (or whatever Jehovah's witnesses do - it's a very misleading name!), then we should respect her adult decision and forgo any blood transfusions (although I hear they accept serum...hey! Can erythropoeitin injections due anything???).

Bah, I know. I lack biomedical moral code. This is just my view based on what my conception of fundamental human rights are...

Peter says...

Also adding structure to the ice cream is the formation of the ice crystals. Water freezes out of a solution in its pure form as ice. In a sugar solution such as ice cream, the initial freezing point of the solution is lower than 0C due to these dissolved sugars. As ice crystallization begins and water freezes out in its pure form, the concentration of the remaining solution of sugar is increased due to water removal and hence the freezing point is further lowered. This process, known as freeze concentration, continues to very low temperatures. Even at the typical ice cream serving temperature of -16oC, only about 72% of the water is frozen. The rest remains as a very concentrated sugar solution. This helps to give ice cream its ability to be scooped and chewed at freezer temperatures. The air content also contributes to this ability as mentioned above in discussing freezing.

Source: University of Guelph: http://www.scieng.uoguelph.ca/findingscienceinicecream.pdf

Ice cream isn't whipped cream, but I gather the principle is similar? i.e. the fact that whipped cream probably contains gross amounts of lactose in the dairy fat (despite not having nearly as much sugar as found in ice cream).

Christopher says...

Since, I'm not studying anyhow, I decided to check the blog for the first time in ages, so I'll respond to a few of the things here.

Winery of choice: Burrowing Owl
Despite the accolades that Hawthorne mountain has won, their reds have never really inspired me. Plus we all need antioxidants now that we are OLD and past our primes. Burrowing Owl has one of the best merlots I've ever tasted and their pinot noir isnt too bad. The other two are just sad and were never even in the running.

Is there any opportunity for us to go to a tasting event as opposed to just a winery tour?

Whip cream:
Whip cream doesn't get cold because of the air pockets inside which act as an insulator. I bet if you froze it though, it would solidify. Lemme know how that turns out.

Toilet Bowls and their ilk:
I think the presence of water simply keeps the fun filled feces particles from entering the atmosphere. The water simply carries it away and keeps it from flying. Does the same with dust too, if you want to lower the amount of crap in your air but cant afford a patented ionic breeze or some other wierd thing I saw on an infomercial.

Ponderosa Point:
You can count me in! I hope everyone can come, I haven't seen the likes of Karen for many a month. I can drive as well, but with these retardedly high gas prices, I don't think you want me lugging my iron tank up those roads. Plus! Someone needs to drive me to the winery so I can get tipsy!

UoM:
Good luck on that interview! Kick some butt!

Firefox:
Firefox is an excellent browser, but I've occasionally had some problems running some plugins with it. Plus some sites just look damn ugly in it. But for the most part its fantastic.

Contemporary Classical:
I love elevator music. Its so much more entertaining than real classical and it doesnt intrude while studying.

Regrets:
One finds that as one grows older one begins to regret the things one didn't do as opposed to those that one did. I have not reached this state yet and I regret a hell of a lot.

Anyhow thats about it. I suppose I can't delay studying for too much longer...

But I'll put a few questions/random thoughts up.

1. How three free dailys (Metro, 24, and Dose) can exist in a tight market like Vancouver. More puzzingly is how the hell can a fabulously successful businessman like Jimmy Pattison support such an endeavor?

2. Ever get asked the question, if an 11 year old girl was dying and needed a blood transfusion, yet she was a Jehovah's Witness and refused to have it upon moral grounds. What would you do?

The answer, according to the Province today, is you get a supreme court decision to strap her down and shove that needle into her arm and do it against her will. Thoughts?

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

joanne, why are you grounded anyways?

Joanne says...

The Okanagan Wine Festival is from May 5th to 8th, which means we'll be there to witness half of it. Ponderosa Point Resort is in Kaleden, which puts us in the middle of Penticton, the Okanagan Falls, Oliver, and Summerland. It just so happens that the majority of the award winners this past year are located in this area, some of the most notable ones including:

Jackson Triggs Vintners - Oliver, always big award winner at the Ice Wine Festival
Hawthorne Mountain Vineyards - Okanagan Falls, for the few white wine lovers in this group
Iniskillin Okanagan Vineyards - Oliver, for the many red wine lovers in this group
Burrowing Owl Vineyards - Oliver, $2 tasting and I have heard great things about their 1998 vintage

It's a shame that Quail's Gate, Gray Monk, and Mission Hill are over in Kelowna. Unless somebody is willing to drive all the way out there... So take a look over these and let me know which one interests you the most.

I think whipped cream never gets really cold because after all that whipping, it's mostly air, which is a good insulator.

Gordon says...

Have you guys realized that whip cream never gets really cold? Why is this?

Joanne says...

Things to do with nutella other than eat it straight out of a jar

Things that people who like to eat nutella out of a jar do with nutella other than eating it out of a jar

Random thought while sitting on the can: If having water in toilet bowls alleviates the stench, then can it be concluded that the smelly particles that dock onto the chemoreceptors of your nasal tissue are hydrophilic?

Joanne says...

Several things:

a) Being grounded sucks. I'm bored. I think I might actually start studying....haha....okok, maybe not.

b) Dragonboat captain was paddling with his shirt off today.

c) According to Ashley, we have until mid this week to submit a final number of attendess to the Hyatt Hotel. So RSVP to me if you/your friends haven't purchased your ticket yet but still want to come! Reminder:

BPP Graduation Dinner and Dance Formal
Hyatt Regency Vancouver Ballroom
Friday, April 29th, 2005
6pm - 1am
$30 members/$40 non-members (if you can find a way to be really really nice to me...I'll sign you up as a member...but good luck trying to do that, haha)
Buffet style dinner, buffet style dessert
Formal attire (think: black suit, tie, gowns - no jeans or shorts)
Highlights include Best Exec Award, BPP Exec Dance, Biochemistry Teaching Award, and the Presidential Speech
Joanne doesn't have a date yet, so feel free to bring her flowers. Actually, maybe she can get the guy who bought her to do that...

If one of the administrators would be so kind to put this up on the list of upcoming events, that will be very much greatly appreciated.

d) I have booked nine spots at Ponderosa Point for Tuesday, May 3rd to Friday, May 6th. Please rearrange work/volunteer schedules as required ASAP. I will need two drivers (three cars will be unnecessarily expensive - please walk by a local gas station to understand why). Those who volunteer their car will of course be reimbursed for gas and will receive a kiss courtesy of yours truly. If the volunteers are attached, I can coerce a kiss courtesy of their significant other.

If one of the administrators would be so kind to put this up on the list of upcoming events as well, it would also be very much greatly appreciated.

e) Cindy: The matchmaker results are at Gordon's place. I'm sure I'll be dropping by UBC on Monday, so I can pick them up and deliver them to you.

f) I know it's a long post, but I'm still grounded. Feel free to entertain me. Gossip, sex scandals, and pictures of naked hot people (both men and women, but not children) will be very much appreciated.

g) I like the phrase "very much appreciated." I used it three times in this post. Wait...four times.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

good luck on your U of M interview, steve!

joanne, if u don't come to team dinner tonight, how will i get my matchmaker results? i'm dying to see who's on mine so i can finally make Chris insecure!

and joyce...this may be somewhat of a personal question, but how is your big toe doing? the reason i'm asking is because my big toe nail fell off on its own and now it's naked...i don't know if i'll ever have another toe nail again! what should i do? (p.s. seeing the doctor is out of the question. i will do anything to protect my toes from the ridicules of the public)

Joyce says...

my first post using Firefox. I've had it for a while but never really get myself to use it. Now I've decided to use it as my primary browswer. Tabs are cool!

Hi, Steve!!!

Stephen says...

Hi from Winnipeg.

The weather is really nuts here. I'm used to it being -15 or so in April, but as the plane was landing this evening the captain was saying how it was 20 above today and it will be 24 above tomorrow. All I packed was sweaters! Dammit!

Oh well, I'll be back in Vancouver on Monday, and Winnipeg will probably get a blizzard in May anyways.

Joanne says...

lalalalalalalalalalalalala.

I sing along to the "Please wait, your call is next in line" songs.

Joyce says...

ultimate team dinner/term-end celebration

details under Announcement.

You are more than welcome to come even if you are not on the team! Since most of the people on the blog are on the team, NO ONE WILL FEEL LEFT OUT!

and, man, post-dinner nap is good.

Pat says...

thank you to everyone for your very 'helpful' and 'encouraging' reminders about the graduate feature.. :|

this will be the last one.. cause, well.. hahah.. i hate you all... kay. thats a lie... only some of you... well.. on a good day... and also, no one else has filled out the form. so if you are nosey (eye-rolling) which a. while being a part of this group, you obviously are and b. feel like 'helpfully encouraging' others to write bios (much like you have for me in updating the bios) then feel free to email me requesting a blank form.

Tim says...

Steve, I believe you visit this blog more than all of us. You know, no matter how hard you try, you'll never be chinese...even if the 'Moon' guy approves of you saying 'Dog' lam hoh

Stephen says...

Never mind your piano teacher. I'll be ashamed of you if you like elevator music. How can you choose that over classical?

But... I guess it's really your choice and doesn't affect me, so go ahead, make Beethoven turn over in his grave. Kidding of course.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

do you think my piano and violin teachers would be ashamed of me if i like classical contemporary music? lol

some common name for classical contemporary music include elevator music, classy restaurant music, and even sometimes stay-on-the-phone-line music. they're very refreshing and soothing, like light rainfall outdoor when you are nice and warm indoor...

oh pat, i think you should perform some of your piano impromptu for us some time again.

Stephen says...

Something to think about when studying:

Sardines

A baby sardine
Saw her first submarie
She was scared and watched through a peephole.

'Oh, come, come,'
Said the Sardine's mum,
'It's only a tin full of people.'

by Spike Milligan

Good luck everyone!

Joanne says...

Hmm, juding from what has been described, I don't blame Cindy for telling us to be extra careful. Who's going to ACF tomorow? If there are people who aren't going,

WHO WANTS TO GET CRUNK TOMORROW????

Know anywhere with cheap alcohol, huh huh huh???

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

ok, so this may sound a little bitter, coming from me...but forget the fact that i'm with st. john, okay?

here is a heart to heart warning, from me, to all of you, as a friend...
be very careful at the arts county fair this year. please use more common sense than you normally would. that's all.

Gordon says...

For those of you who aren't in BPP or are off in Co-op and are interested in coming to the BPP Grad dinner/dance this April 29th, 2005, just let one of us execs know. Hope you can come!!!! WE ARE GRADUATING!

(Execs: Joanne, Chris, Cindy, Leo, Li kai, viv, myself.....holy crap that's like everyone on this friggen blog..)

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

to those who took the time to hug me or listen to me rant today: THANK YOU!

Gordon says...

Has it only been a month?? I thought it seemed more like...feature graduate of the season.

As for regrets...ugh..way too many. i think I'd probbaly just crash the system if I started a list...

Joanne says...

Mmmm, I feel like the Feature Graduate of the Month... aren't more people graduating?

Stephen says...

I regret not doing Storm the Wall in any of my other years, it was a lot of fun! Related to that, I also regret not training for Storm the Wall this year, and making a fool of myself.

I suppose a lesser regret I have is that I've lived in Vancouver for four years, all of my friends are Chinese, and all I know how to say in Chinese is "dog noodle soup". The guy at The Moon still makes me say it...

Tim says...

Hmm, alright let's see my regret is that I didn't study as hard as I am now. Otherwise, I could be the one turning down med schools right now :p Ok, maybe not but at least I have a chance of getting into one :p

Karen says...

(repost cuz the blog's eating my posts...OR...pat's secretly censoring my voice by deleting them! i'm so onto you...)

does regretting something have to imply that you'd it differently if given the opportunity?

i regret not having worked harder the entire 3rd year. (or having worked hard at all.) but if time were reversible, i highly doubt i'd do anything differently.

happy children's day everybody! as on this blog anyway, we are all kids at heart. =)
[april 4th is children's day according to the chinese but i believe the canadian one is in june...]

Karen says...

random note:

chapters online is a fine retailer of books, movies, music and now diamonds (?!)...now tell me, which of the above items does not fit with the others?? the beginning of a chapters empire?

Joanne says...

I regret taking CHEM 202 instead of CHEM 211. CHEM 202 was useless. All I learned in that class was what EDTA stands for.

WHO WANTS ME TO TELL THEM WHAT EDTA STANDS FOR???? Haha, I really really want to tell you guys!! Too bad. I'm gonna tell you guys anyway. It's ethylenediaminetetraacetate.

That's more than 4 syllables and science-y. Does that mean that I violated the by-law again?

Peter says...

i regret not having lived the moment, worrying too much about who i was and what others thought of me.

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

for me personally, i don't talk in regrets. too depressing, the should have's and the would have's and could have's...

i live in my happy bubble of self deception, where everything i've ever done and has been done to me happened for a reason. that is, i chose it that way. muhahahaha...

Tim says...

Ok people herez a question:

At your time here at University, what is your ONE REGRET!
Meaning that if you could go back in time to change one thing...what would it be.
(Note* you don't have to choose just one...but choose in order what you would change)

vivienne says...

When you've only 2 hours of sleep, and have to do a project the next day, you end up with this in your head, playing over and over....

"Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! Hey, Pepto-Bismo!"

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< continuous play mode

Somebody kill me.

Joanne says...

Relax don't do it
When you want to go to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
When you want to come
Relax don't do it
When you want to to go to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
Relax don't do it
When you want to suck it to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
Come-oh oh oh

Is it just me, or is this song talking about ejaculation?

Joanne says...

A mother-daughter bonding coversation earlier today...

Mom: "Do you even know how to dance when you go clubbing?"
Joanne: "Hell yah! Check this out" *does Chandler dance rendition*
Mom: "Aiya, and what's more pathetic is that I know you're not drunk when you dance like that."

Stephen says...

Joyce: the term is "6-pack", as in a 6-pack of beer. 6-pecs, interesting as that might be, would mean having either: a) 6 breasts, or b) oddly symmetrical bulging in each of your chest muscles.

The pope has died. I hope they find somebody equally as consciencious to replace him, and not a right wing nutter.

Joanne says...

In one night, I had five drinks (without getting drunk OR throwing up!), saw my incredibly hot captain with his shirt off, grind with some guy whose name I can't remember, got purchased by a bunch of UBC Commerce guys, and helped charity.

Ah, brings back memories...see what Biochemistry has done to me?

Joyce says...

steve, now i'm confused. 6 pecs, abs... hmm
see, this is when nerdy latin names come in handy

*sneeze* x 3

btw, HAPPY APRIL FOOL'S DAY EVERYONE!

Stephen says...

Umm... sneezing won't make you get pecs, those are in your chest; you know, those muscles that make men look barrel-chested, those are pecs. Do you mean abs? Yes, sneezing and coughing will give you abs. Star's cousin Zarah got really sick once and coughed so much it gave her abs. Star has had that happen as well.

Joanne says...

Vivienne and Kenny sitting in a tree...

vivienne says...

Gordon: I already gave Tim THE TALK yesterday...don't make me give you one, too. :p

And for a matter of fact he was NOT in tears yesterday....I think. O.o;;;;;;;;; (Cindy you're not helping things...)

Gordon says...

Didn't viv already forgive him? Tim and I saw those two walk off into the sunset together wednesday ;)

NeverGonnaGrowUp says...

VIV: kenny says he is very, very sorry. he was on the verge of tears on wednesday when he came to the 5pm fnh class looking for you...please forgive him :'(

JOYCE: i've always wondered the same thing...let me know what your pec results are